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NOTHING to complain about in this draft

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by jesusphreak, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. jesusphreak

    jesusphreak New Member

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    Let's break it down

    * Carpenter - monster linebacker to put opposite of Ware, really solidifies this as a Bill Parcells' mean defense
    * Fasano - big pass-catching tight end with pretty good blocking skills. Put him opposite Witten and now we have those two tight ends along with TO and Glenn on the field. The ability to pass on every down, run on every down to either side, and it also makes 3-step drops which protect Bledsoe that much easier. Should be a beast to contain.
    * Hatcher - you need linemen in a 3/4 defense. Rotation rotation rotation. Hatcher may not be a big name guy, but he does have some raw talent and it seems like he will work hard, which is one of the most important things in the NFL and Parcells loves. Plus he has a chip on his shoulder.
    * Green - Steve Smith style player, with great speed and some nice moves. Will make an immediate impact on kick returns/punt returns (don't neglect how important these are!), also gives us a 4th receiver which we can run some tricky plays with (played QB in high school)
    * Watkins - has the raw talent, is fast, large enough to cover some of these massive receivers in the NFL these days, and finally gives us a free safety that can roam the field and let Roy do the pounding

    I mean really, you can only get so much in a draft when you have certain holes to fill. Yes, the Cowboys didn't add depth to their o-line, but they already did a pretty good job in free agency and the draft isn't over yet.

    I think all in all this is an extremely solid draft. I was initially confused by some of the choices, but it seems to make a lot of sense.
  2. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    Wow, somebody who sees that grabbing the biggest name player, doesnt mean having a good draft, or that drafting for need, brings us back to the 2000-2003 seasons.

    I give you applause.
  3. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    This draft was a solid C on day 1. After the Green pick, it turned into a D-.

    But with great value in Watkins, it moves back to a C.

    I don't see any of these guys making a difference in getting us back into the playoffs.
  4. Dale

    Dale Forum Architect

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    Solid, solid draft. I don't know that we got any steals big enough to push this grade to an "A" (Watkins may qualify as such), but I think this draft haul will help us immensely. Another terrific collection of players to add to the team.
  5. Fan Since 77

    Fan Since 77 New Member

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    I think your first reaction was right. Explain to me why we need to spend ANOTHER high pick for a tight end? You can't justify it.
  6. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    I think we get a grade A, for not reaching, keeping away from the questionable players (hurt theire final year, trouble), and for drafting BPA, not PON (player of need)
  7. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Cause we are gonna run two tight end as our base offense .....

    I know you will just prolly ignore that ...... but thats the way it is.
  8. jesusphreak

    jesusphreak New Member

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    Carpenter will start, Fasano will start, I wouldn't be suprised if Green was returning punts and kicks, and it wouldn't suprise me if Watkins was starting either.

    These are all players that will give immediate impact, with perhaps the exception of Hatcher.
  9. Dale

    Dale Forum Architect

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    We already had one good receiver but didn't avoid getting another, did we?

    When you start two at a position, it's in your best interest to have two quality players there.
  10. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    No one is going to give our draft an A...If you find anyone giving us an A, I'll never post here again...I'm that sure of it...lol.

    However, that's not to say it won't turn into an A in the next couple of years, but no one will view it that way now.

    I'm guessing most will say C, some maybe C+.....I'm a homer, so I'll give it a B.
  11. Fan Since 77

    Fan Since 77 New Member

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    I see what you're saying man, but honestly, tell me one NFL team that has ever needed two great tight ends. Oh sure, we could have snagged a TE in the sixth round or something to give Whitten some help, but we had other needs. More important needs. Anyway you want to spin it, it isn't a good choice. We could have picked up a lot more talent at another position we need to fill. Simple as that
  12. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't assume that Fasano will beat out the guy we signed from the NFC champions....Fasano might be the #3 TE in his rookie year.
  13. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Thats the point ...... Do you know how hard it would be to stop 2 Wittens?

    Think about the possibilities.
  14. lostinomiya

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    we did not reach...we went for the best player on our board....and our offensive line is still shallow and questionable after five opportunities to upgrade it...great work.
    dont fear .....we can still get a seventh rounder and maybe get a nose tackle there too....but the best available there might be a kicker or deep snapper...so lets go for that.
  15. jesusphreak

    jesusphreak New Member

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    If Hannam is that good, then thats not something to be disappointed about. But from the sounds of it, they picked up Hannam just incase they didn't get the TE they wanted on draft day.
  16. Fan Since 77

    Fan Since 77 New Member

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    and to be honest, overall the draft wasn't that bad. It just seems there is always one pick every year that leaves you scratching your head. I look at other teams around the league and see better drafts, that's all.
  17. dargonking999

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    I nevner said give outr draft an A, based on the talent of the players we drafted, but the way we drafted. The downfall to the franchise was bad drafting. This past few years, we have been drafting talent that can keep our franchsie going, years after BP has left.
  18. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the good thing about the 3-4 is it doesn't require athletic and highly drafted DT's. We simply need a big, blocker-eater at NT. Those are available late in the 2nd day.

    We definitely need to snag one ... or two.
  19. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Trust me...neither Witten nor Fasano were expected to be great TE's by anyone in the NFL.

    There have been great TE's chosen every year in round 1....Vernon Davis isn't the first...those are the guys who are GREAT.

    Witten has been a big surprise...we hoped he'd be good, but as a 3rd rounder, no one expected him to be a probowler. WE took Fasano a round earlier, but the guy only runs a 4.7, so I don't expect him to be another probowler. WE wanted a TE, and we got the one we wanted, I guess...no more, no less.
  20. wileedog

    wileedog Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Most of the 'experts' are going to harp on us not selecting an O-lineman earlier, although I get the feeling we kept losing the guy we wanted just before we picked.

    Its a solid draft, nothing to complain about IMO, but I have trouble equating it with the much more impactful draft of last year, assuming Burnett pans out.

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