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Obama loses the left

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by zrinkill, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    It's not just gun-toting rightwingers who distrust Obama. US "progressives" (extreme leftist) have lost faith in his commitment to change

    Keith Olbermann had had enough.

    Last Tuesday the liberal host of MSNBC's Countdown, perhaps the loudest Barack Obama cheerleader on cable news, singled out the Obama White House in his sarcastic Best Persons in the World segment for the "best impression of the Bush administration".

    Obama's sin: hiring the Rendon Group, the beneficiary of Bush-administration largess, to screen journalists seeking to be embedded with US military forces by picking over their past coverage.
    "It gets worse," Olbermann continued, complaining that the Rendon Group had worked with Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi exile leader whose propaganda had helped pave the way for the American invasion. (The story was first reported by the military newspaper Stars and Stripes. The contract was terminated earlier this week.)

    In this, the summer of Barack Obama's discontent, the president is generally portrayed as a victim of gun-toting rightwingers who bellow about death panels at healthcare forums, rascally members of Congress more interested in political gamesmanship than in the public good and his own inexperience and overreaching.

    What's generally left out of the equation is growing discontent on among the leftwing netroots. Olbermann may not be a card-carrying member of the netroots, but he frequently gives voice to and reflects their views. Heck, he even has a diary on Daily Kos, the ├╝berblog of the left.

    Among progressives, discontent has been building pretty much since inauguration day over issues ranging from civil liberties to torture prosecutions, from Obama's tepid support for gay and lesbian equality to his – well – tepid support for a government-run insurance option in the healthcare reform plan now stalled in Congress.

    Glenn Greenwald, whose blog for Salon is among the most important stops for liberal activists, has been getting on Obama for months now. Greenwald wrote way back in February that the president had "resoundingly and disgracefully" failed his first civil liberties test by adopting the Bush administration's "state secrets" privilege in dealing with detainees who'd been subjected to extraordinary renditions.

    More recently, Greenwald endorsed New York Times columnist Paul Krugman's view that Obama had lost the trust of progressives on issues such as terrorism, financial reform and, of course, healthcare.

    At FireDogLake, Jane Hamsher, like many on the left, blames the president's chief of staff for the corporate, business-as-usual tilt of Obama's Washington. She writes that "the #1 goal of the guy calling the shots (Rahm Emanuel) was to keep all the stakeholders ... at the table and their chequebooks out of Republican coffers."
    Want more?

    Here's Zachary Roth, writing for TPM Muckraker, part of the Talking Points Memo network: "It's looking more and more like Barack Obama's pledge to usher in a new era of openness in government may well go unfulfilled."

    Here's Alex Blaze, writing for the Bilerico Project ("daily experiments in LGBTQ"): "[T]he angriest and most vocal sector of the people who generally voted Obama has been LGB people."

    Here's Danny Schechter
    , blogging about Obama's reappointment of Ben Bernanke as chairman of the Federal Reserve: "Why, Obama, why?"


    And, finally, here's Bob Neer, co-editor of the liberal Massachusetts blog Blue Mass Group and the author of Barack Obama for Beginners: An Essential Guide:
    Signing statements that assert a unilateral presidential power to rewrite laws. Indefinite detention without trial. A withdrawal from Iraq roughly in line with that proposed by President Bush – which is to say, an indefinite occupation army. A dramatic increase in spending on the war in Afghanistan without any clear statement of our objective there. Lots of money for bankers. At this rate, I won't be very surprised if the big push for healthcare reform winds up as the Bush prescription drug benefit 2.0: top dollar for healthcare corporations, happy talk for everyone else.
    I'll grant you that it all seems a bit much. Not that Obama hasn't been a disappointment in some respects. Personally, I find his stiff-arming of civil liberties and gay rights to be particularly galling.

    But though Obama may be the first liberal president since Lyndon Johnson, his liberalism is very much of the mainstream variety. His supporters on the left seem to forget that he originally stood out as an alternative to Hillary Clinton because he could appeal to Republicans – "Obamicans" – as well as Democrats. He ran to the right of Clinton on healthcare, and to the right of just about everyone in his tough-guy approach to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    In short, we did not elect Dennis Kucinich last November.

    Obama's media image as a far-left liberal is based on several factors: the unprecedented measures he had to take in response to the financial crisis, measures from which he is already retreating; the extreme rhetoric ("socialist", "Nazi") of rightwing pundits such as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck; and his status as the first African-American president, which for many folks automatically transforms him into, say, Malcolm X.

    Not to make light of Obama's cautious approach – after all, what progressive wouldn't like to see him fight for same-sex marriage, transformative healthcare reform and a decisive end to the Bush-Cheney terror policies? But you would think that Team Obama by now would have figured out how to take advantage of discontent on the left.

    By embracing netroots opposition, Obama could make the case that he is, in fact, a president who commands the broad middle of American politics, disliked as much by the left as the right.
    As it stands, Obama's got the worst of all possible worlds. Ordinary Americans, fed a steady stream of foolishness by media outlets that parrot Republican talking points, believe Obama is a dangerous leftwinger who's spending the country into bankruptcy and plotting a government takeover of healthcare.

    And the liberal activists who helped get him elected are sniping and sitting on their hands at a crucial moment in his presidency.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/sep/01/barack-obama-healthcare-left-trust


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  2. TheRat

    TheRat The Silly Willy

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    I think you misunderstand our intentions. We still support Obama, but he needs to feel some heat to keep him honest. In fact his approval ratings among Dems have been consistently in the 80s.
  3. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Well the welfare babies will continue to vote for money that they are incapable of earning because of .............................
  4. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Extremists annoy me, be it from the right or from the left. Obama's keeping his campaign promises and not worrying about who's feelings he hurts in the process. Gee, imagine that, a President who sticks to what he ran on....amazing.
  5. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Keeping his campaign promises? Talk about blind....
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Just more proof about which side of the fence Brain is on dispute all his "poor me" protestations to the contrary.
  8. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    Actually if you would read the link, you would see that it is contrary to what he said and what you are saying about me in your post. That is if you would actually read the stuff on the link instead of jumping into your normal woe is me and lib lib lib routine.

    Try harder next time.
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    No I looked at the site and checked out what was said. I disagree with most of their so called "Evaluations" and they were frankly poorly supported.
  10. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    Awesome, you read all of that in under 5 minutes and came to that conclusion even though in many cases they say he has NOT kept his promises and has reported a huge number of things where he has taken no action. SO in your rush to judgment you fail to realize there is a treasure trove of information there to dispute the other posters opinion and support yours.

    Amazing and you question someone else growing a brain.:laugh1:
  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I said I disagree with their evaluations. DO you understand english at all. I think that in some cases they are wrong both for and against Obama. So to me that site is worthless.
  12. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    Actually I think you just got caught not really looking at the link and trying to cover yourself.

    Try harder next time.
  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    No arrogant one I speed read. So try again.
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    No you do not.

    Lie to me is one thing, lying to yourself is another.

    But you keep trying.
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Once again arrogant one knows what someone he has never met is capable of - he just KNOWS. What a pathetic joke.
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    Well since you seem to know what every one is or thinks, I figured you could appreciate it.

    Lib
    Lib
    Lib

    You are getting schooled speed reader.
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    In you pathetic mind perhaps. No where else.
  18. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives. Zone Supporter

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    Cat fight !
  19. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    It's ok...one day you will grow out of your one sided party foolishness and realize you have been a sheep all your life.

    Lib
    Lib
    Lib

    :laugh1:
  20. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    This should be a sign to the haters that he's doing something right. ;)

    Worshipping the man does no good, he's due criticism for mistakes (or assumed mistakes) he makes, but that doesn't neccesarily mean he's "lost the left".

    You know better than that, Brain. :lmao2:

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