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Offense is under wraps

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Galian Beast, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    In another topic I noticed that people were complaining about the lack of 12 personnel. I can understand why there is confusion. I re-re-watched the game. And the most critical point of emphasis that I was paying attention to was Escobar and Hanna.

    Not once did I see either player run a single passing route. They were in the game plenty of times, but they were exclusively in the game to run block or pass block.

    And I can unequivocally say right now, that we did not bring these guys in for the blocking abilities.

    So there is only one sensible conclusion: We aren't showing that element of our offense.

    We use Hanna and Escobar exactly like the Patriots used Hernandez. Split off the line, or in the F back position, as opposed to the traditional inline tight end. We use Witten like the Patriots use Gronkowski.

    The only thing that been missing is that these guys are running any routes.

    Not only do I expect them to be much more involved in the passing game, but I expect us to run a lot more no huddle. One of the most important aspects of running the 12 formation is forcing a mismatch. Running the no huddle prevents the defense from substituting players.

    I think we'll see a lot of this against New York, and I can't help but think that Hanna and Escobar are going to excel. I really think this offense is going to roll. Especially if Leary is good to go for week 1.
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  2. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    I've seen them run routes, but I agree that for the most part, we've been practicing blocking with the TE's out of 12, which is what they sorely need. We all know Witten can get open and catch the ball. We've all seen tape of Escobar catching. What they really needed to practice was blocking in tandem with the line, lining up correctly as to not get penalties, etc.

    I don't think the 12 is a magic elixir, but Garrett has openly preached that we need to run the ball better after the debacle of the last few seasons so it's no surprise we're working on that.
  3. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    I have thought this as well (that they are not tipping their hands)....the less the giants can see Escobar and Hanna catching balls, the better (sorta)...as long as THAT is the plan, I can live with it...I just want to see the TE's get some passes in real games as they create so many mis-match opportunities. 11 more days after today....
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  4. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    Romo said as much a few weeks ago. Preseason seems to have been mainly working on blocking in this revamped offense and getting the run game worked out. I'm excited to see what is unveiled come September
  5. Staubacher

    Staubacher Well-Known Member

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    Giants have LB and safety issues so it's a good time for us to drop trou and show them our tight ends
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  6. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Benched

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    It's preseason. It's what teams do or don't do which is put on film what they'll actually be running come opening day. It's always been that way and always will be.
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  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking forward to seeing this offense on opening day, I see a lot of fire power on offense and hopefully a defense who can get turnovers so that the offense has a better chance of putting more points on the board.
  8. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I think the real change we're going to see against the Giants isn't the magical 12, it's more hurry up and Tony running things from the line. Which is going to be amazing.
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  9. Oh_Canada

    Oh_Canada Well-Known Member

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    Better get your popcorn ready. Hanna is going to bring an element to this team we haven't seen on the Cowboys maybe ever.
  10. dmq

    dmq If I'm so pretty, why am I available?

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    Hope so. Hanna is a guy I have heard nothing about this offseason.
  11. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    I think people have "under wraps" and "ace up sleeve" and "vanilla" mixed up with what they are really doing, and what pre-season is for...evaluating and improving skill sets.

    Everyone knows Escobar can run routes, and catch the football, what he can't do is block. So what do you have him do in the pre-season? run routes? no, get on the line and block. practice getting off the LOS and engaging in tandem blocks, single blocks, help blocks, blitz pick-up. Practice what is he bad at in the game so that he can develop the skills needed to be an asset during the season.

    Pre-season is not about running plays, or hiding things from other teams, its about evaluating players and getting them practice at doing things that they might be lacking in and they would be needed to do efficiently in the regular season (hence the whole lets run every kickoff out even if there is no reason) Strategy is not involved in the pre-season. Evaluation is.
  12. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    I have yet to see Escobar or Hanna run a single first team route. Of course I'd have to rewatch the other two games where the first team played in, but I saw none in the previous game. That isn't a coincidence.
  13. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    No its not a coincidence. What better way to get these guys up to par in blocking then to put them to block against a line like Cin? At the end of the day pre-season is about evaluation and improving...why do you need them to run routes? No one is trying to win the game. Its not a oh lets keep the plays a secret because the giants are watching!!! If that was the case then why would we run any real offense until we get to the superbowl in fear that whoever we play might know our plays?? Exactly, when you play to win the game, you game plan and put your offense out there to score. When you are in pre-season you are worried about evaluating guys and giving them a chance to improve in certain areas. Hence no real game-planning, no real strategy, and no real full fledge offense. We aren't the Jets, who send there starting QB out in the 4th quarter to win a pre-season game.
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  14. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    I expect to unveil the good stuff against the giants and whip them. The real test will be the next two weeks, will it be a well oiled machine, or the keystone cops.
  15. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Major possum being played this preseason by the offense.
  16. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Lol, wut?

    I actually like Hanna, but this is an extremely exaggerated idea. There is nothing to suggest that he's going to have a big year, or even be a major factor in the offense.
  17. onlyonenow

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    unless Witten is injured he is at best about the #4 guy in progression and maybe lower
  18. FLcowboy

    FLcowboy Hopeful this is the year Zone Supporter

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    If so, the "element" might be a backup TE actually contributing
  19. Bull Frog

    Bull Frog Active Member

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    As long as Jerry doesn't go on TV during the pre-game and say, "we're going to put on a show" I'll be confident. He made that statement minutes before the 2000 opener, AKA the Pickle Juice game where we took an absolute beating. I think that was Joey Galloway's debut in a Cowboy uniform where he tore his ACL. That season was a disaster.
  20. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Thank god they don't need to practice this stuff under live fire. Luckily they've been running this offense for years and years and are a well oiled machine.

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