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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hostile, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Which do you think happens?

    1. Dallas trades up from #18. Please share why you think so if you are so inclined.

    2. Dallas stays at 18 and selects a player. Please share who if you are so inclined.

    3. Dallas trades down. Please share why if you are so inclined.
  2. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    Stay at 18 and draft Carpenter
  3. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Trade down for 2 reasons. One - we can get the same player a few picks later. Two - Recoup the 4th rounder we are without this year.
  4. JonJon

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    The Cowboys haft positioned themselves in the offseason to go after a SOLB. The signing of Ayodele and his instant move to ILB suggest that there will be another addition for the SOLB position. The better prospects, Lawson, Carpenter, and Wimbley, will likely go in the first round. At least one of these studs should be available at pick #18, thus no need to move up. Trading down could mean losing out on all three, which would be a disaster. A starting FS can be addressed in Round 2.
  5. DragonCowboy

    DragonCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Stay and get Carpenter/Lawson/Wimbley (whoever is there)

    We can trade down later in the draft and pick up a 4th. Hopefully we can get some takers...
  6. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    I really like the sig line. Says it all.
  7. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Thanks. :D
  8. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Stay at 18 and take BPA.

    If we really like a player, I wouldn't be upset if we traded up to get him. I'm not as big on trading back as most. To me, the object of the draft is to pick as highly as possible. The higher the pick the higher the talent available. Oversimplification, I know, but picking at 18 is better than picking at 25. There are 7 people there who would be gone at 25.

    Thinking back in the history of the cowboys drafts... I can't hardly remember a time when trading back worked out and was clearly the best choice. Getting Julius and having buffalo's #1 last year was ok I guess... but for the most part, the later round picks that you acquire don't amount to much. We got TE Ryan with buffalo's pick. Meh... big deal.

    On the other hand, moving up a few spots to nab Emmitt Smith paid huge dividends. Anyone worried about the 3rd round pick we missed that year?

    Moving up to get Russell Maryland worked out fine too. Actually, the trade was made for us to get Rocket Ismail before he decided to go to the CFL. Jimmy Johnson would've done wonders with that guy. Again, anyone worried about the late round picks we had to give up?

    I know the vast majority will be against me, but I hardly ever want to trade back, and trading up always seems much better to me... as long as there is a player that we really like there. I actually wouldn't be too upset if we traded a LOT away and went up and got Hawk. I just think blue chip talent is what it's all about and I'd rather have one blue chipper than two solid players any time.

    Like I said, I know I'm pretty much alone in that, but it's how I feel. It's how I'd draft if I was a GM. I know, I know... you're all glad I don't run the Cowboys...
  9. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    We traded down for Roy, but I see what you are saying :)
  10. Silverstar

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    JJ signed a record 8 FA's this offseason, so I think he wants to stay and take BPA now.
  11. baj1dallas

    baj1dallas New Member

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    I think they'll go for value by trading down and taking a FS/OT/LB in the 20-30s.
  12. JonJon

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    :hammer:

    Exactly. Trading down in my opinion is an even bigger risk, as you are actually decreasing your chances of landing an impact player. Every now and then, a player drafted below round 3 turns out to be a super steal and becomes a career starter and even pro-bowl caliber player. On average, most players in that range are either career backups or short-term league participants at best. The majority of true impact players are drafted in rounds 1 and 2. So why not take the best chance of landing a great player?

    I don't know about you guys, but I am getting pretty tired of singing the "what if" song.
  13. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Good point. I forgot about that.

    Moving two spots isn't really what I was talking about though.

    I frikkin' go crazy when its our pick in the first and they come and say all of the sudden that we pick in the middle of round 2. :banghead: I HATE that... and it's usually fruitless. we've missed so many good guys that way.

    I'm off my soapbox... I'll stop.
  14. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Roy Williams.
  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Until a couple of years ago, we missed out an a lot of good guys staying put.
  16. 2much2soon

    2much2soon Active Member

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    Somebody Dallas wants, like Lawson or Carpenter, will fall out of favor in the general consensus of the league in the days leading up to the draft. Dallas moves back, picks up a pick (4th) and gets who they wanted all along.
    Every year some formerly high ranked guy falls on draft day. It will happen again this year.
  17. Qwickdraw

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    I am so inclined...:p:

    trade down.

    But someone has to trade up.
    I think Dallas attempts to trade down with sights on Carpenter or Wimbley, possibly an OT. Whether or not there is a suitor remains to be seen.
  18. billknows

    billknows New Member

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    Exactly right , Stay at 18 and grab the LB, two of the three teams drafting behind us are likely to grab a lb...
  19. Chrissyboy

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    I agree in principle with your comments but Roy springs to mind(as mentioned elsewhere) and don't forget Spears came as part of that Buffalo deal that eventually gave us Julius (seemed to work pretty well - I'd take Julius and Spears instead S Jackson).

    I just hope Jerry doesn't pull one of his ego fueled reaches. BPA is fine with me, but greed gets to me! I would love to drop 4/5 spots for an extra 3rd or 4th - and still get one of the OLB candidates.
  20. Scotman

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    I voted for a move up. Not out of logic mind you, just a hunch. That and a quarter and you can make a phone call.

    I think they are going for it all this year. I think they'll look to add a player of real impact, not a QB of other developmental player. I don't know enough about college ball to speculate who it might be. I depend on y'all for that. But I think they'll watch the board for a small handful of players. If one of those players falls a few spots, I think the WarRoom will be making phone calls trying to get up there to get them.

    We'll see.

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