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Opinion: Proposed rule change

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Snauty, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    what kind of advantage did the 9ers get for their penalty? none...there wasnt even a play run...it cost them some inches and the series moved on...not sure why the OP is so upset over almost nothing...
  2. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    If there's no advantage, then why is encroachment even a penalty?
  3. Gadfly22

    Gadfly22 Active Member

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    The rules they have to change are; (1) the helmet-to-helmet rule, which can get called when there is completely accidental contact that occurs because 2 (or more) players are moving very very fast in a small space; and (2) the helpless receiver rule, which makes it virtually impossible to tackle a receiver in the open field since the defender has to make a sure tackle AND not make that tackle too violent.

    I'm all for protecting players, especially their vulnerable brains, but the helmet-to-helmet rule can't be a zero-tolerance rule (the refs have to have more discretion NOT to call the penalty when completely accidental) and the helpless receiver rule -- well, I don't know what to do with that, since it's called so inconsistently.
  4. vlad

    vlad Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I understand what you are saying - its an interesting case. Those laughing at you - well I just assume they pick fights with people online.

    When Bowman (I think it was) jumped over the line I and it was just a "half-the-distance" I immediately thought - "well I'd just do that again and again and again until they score or I actually time it right". There is really no reason not to in a bottom-line way. It just would annoy people and potentially question the "integrity of the game" which I don't think anyone will care about if you win.

    Similar is seeing a time FINALLY take advantage of the rule where if a defender jumps into neutral zone you can just pop up out of your stance and its an encroachment. Denver did that so many times - its a no brainer 5 yards - I get so annoyed when our guys just stand there.
  5. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    So if the offense is backed up inside their own 5 yard line, and they have a false start, should a down also be taken away.
    Goes both ways.
  6. Snauty

    Snauty Active Member

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    actually yes, if no more yards can be taken away, i say give them a saftey. If you intentional ground it in the endzone its a saftey so whats the difference.
  7. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting thought.
    If at 2 yard line, either backed upped, or about to score.
    Say a false start moves it to the 1. A unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, say a chop block. puts it at the 1.
    An offsides at the other end, moves from 2 to the 1, a roughing the passer does the same. Free shot on the QB in a way. But that carries a 1st down, as offsides doesn't.
    actually most defensive penalties gives offense a 1st down.

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