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Oregon - Cliff Harris

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by CATCH17, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Would you take a chance on him in the 6th round? He basically did the same things Jenkins did and could be had later on in the draft.




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  2. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    no..and he didnt do the same thing jenkins did

    harris had a plethora of issues that resulted in him being kicked off oregons team..he was given chance after chance after chance after chance

    NO
  3. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    Jenkins got in fights ans drug related. All I know of what Cliff Harris did was drive fast a few times and had his drviers license taken away and then did it again.
  4. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    Overshadowed by the prolific scorers on Oregon's offense, Harris played a critical role in the Ducks' run to the 2011 BCS Championship game, emerging as the most dangerous cornerback and kick returner in the Pac-10 -- and perhaps in the entire country.
    Though a highly touted prep prospect, Harris was initially expected to redshirt as a true freshman in 2009. Injuries forced the Ducks to play Harris early, however, and he responded with several big plays in the second half of the season, including an interception in the end zone against Washington, a 42-yard kick-return against Ohio State in the Rose Bowl and leading the team with eight passes broken up despite only starting two games on the year. Still, no one could have predicted what would come in Harris' breakout sophomore season.
    Harris led the country with 23 passes defended and led the Pac-10 with six interceptions, including two impressive interceptions against Andrew Luck and the Stanford Cardinal. His second came in the closing minutes in the end zone, essentially sealing Oregon's win and Stanford's only loss of the season. He also returned four punts for touchdowns, leading the country in that category, as well. He was a consensus All-American, joining teammate LaMichael James and former Ducks Mel Renfro and Haloti Ngata as the only Oregon players to have ever been so celebrated.
    The 2010 season is essentially all scouts have to evaluate as Harris' on-field exploits are only matched by his poor decisions off of it. Due to a variety of run-ins with the law, Harris was limited to just six games in 2011 (nine tackles, one interception). He was suspended twice and ultimately kicked off the team for good in December.
    Harris' talent is undeniable. NFL teams are always in search of cover corners with big play ability. To earn the early round pick that equates to his ball and return skills, however, Harris will have to prove that he has the maturity to handle himself off the field.
  5. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    Analysis


    Man Coverage:
    Rarely asked to play at the line of scrimmage in press coverage, though he appears to have the quick feet and loose hips to perform well in this scheme. Very experienced in off-man coverage, demonstrating a low, tight back pedal, fluid turning motion and straight-line speed to stick with any receiver in the country. Possesses a legitimate second gear when the ball is in flight and competes for every pass.

    Zone Coverage:
    Excellent anticipatory skills. Sneaks a peek back at the quarterback when he can and will vacate his assignment to break on underneath routes. Possessing an explosive burst downhill to close on the ball. Isn't a physical hitter who is going to intimidate anyone but has very good lateral agility to break down in space and is a reliable open field tackler.

    Ball Skills:
    Possesses very good hands and body control for the position. Times his leaps well, has a very good vertical jump and high-points passes, showing the hand-eye-coordination normally associated with wideouts. Very good vision, agility and straight line speed for the return. To nitpick, Harris carries the ball too loosely when he has it. Muffs the occasional punt and has had the ball ripped out of his hands on returns, as well (Stanford). This would appear to be mainly a concentration issue, however, while he focusing more on making a big play rather than ball security.

    Run Support:
    A bit inconsistent in supporting the run. More than willing to take on the back in space - including bigger ball-carriers - but is okay with his teammates doing the dirty work, as well. Good quickness, agility and aggression in slipping past receiver blocks, but can get tied up by bigger, stronger wideouts. Inconsistent effort in pursuit, though he picks it up a notch when he sees the ball-carrier has a chance for a big play. Takes good angles in pursuit when necessary.

    Tackling:
    A surprisingly effective tackler considering that he often relies on taking the knees out from the ball-carrier. Very good body control and accuracy to strike at the legs of the ball-carrier and does a nice job of wrapping his arms to stop the bigger man. Willing to lower his shoulder and play with physicality, but isn't going to scare anyone with his hitting ability.

    Intangibles:
    Of his eight career interceptions, four have come against Andrew Luck (two), Matt Barkley (one) and Jake Locker (one). Legitimate character red-flags. Has reportedly racked up more than $5,000 in traffic fines over the past three years stemming from various arrests for speeding, driving with a suspended license, driving without insurance, failing to stop at a stop sign and minor in possession of alcohol, among other things. Fresno County court records indicate that Harris has not held a valid driver's license for more than two years. Famously, he and a teammate (quarterback Darron Thomas) were stopped in the early morning hours of July 12 driving 118 miles per hour along Interstate 5 in a car rented by a University of Oregon employee. Found himself in more legal hot water a few months later (Oct. 24) after again being pulled over and ticketed for driving with a suspended license, no proof of insurance and for driving without wearing his seat belt. Was suspended by the team and ultimately kicked off the team for good when he arrested on November 25 for possession of marijuana.
    --Rob Rang
  6. CowboyHawg2012

    CowboyHawg2012 New Member

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    Jeez, sounds like he's being a college kid......... non athletes get arrested for dumber things. Granted it is incredibly stupid to do all these when you're a big time athlete for a team in the national spotlight, but who's to say he doesnt regret it all? Im 23 and have made my fair share of mistakes along the way. Part of me wants to take them back, but being more reasonable, im glad they happened. it allowed me to mature and learn from my errors. Who here didnt drink underage? Maybe this was his wake up call, none of us really knows, but I do know I would love to give this guy a shot. if he bombs, its his loss. 1 22 yo rookie with a bad attitude isnt going to melt the lockerroom
  7. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    In the 6th round, sure.
  8. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Hes pretty much like Dez except he does more dangerous things but it's still just immature stuff.


    That guy is a player though and would be our 3rd best corner eventually.
  9. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    He didnt time well. No place does it matter more than DB.
  10. 2hawkes

    2hawkes Benched

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    nope don't wnat him
  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    never stops. Gomers always finding excuses for idiots.

    Everyone does it

    it doesn't matter

    immature but will grow out of it


    you can't cure stupid gomers
  12. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Yes please. He's my steal of the entire draft IMO and my pet cat. He has better ball skills then any corner including Claiborne. He can also return punts. I've said it a dozen times, yes he's a knuckle head, but he can ball. I'm not sure if Garrett will do it, but if we can get him the interception rate just went up.
  13. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    I'd definately take a flyer on him in the 6th
  14. Oh_Canada

    Oh_Canada Well-Known Member

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    In a heartbeat...but not much earlier....he is a good talent, but not worth too big of an investment.
  15. cowboysooner

    cowboysooner Well-Known Member

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    He is not as good, fast or big as Jenkins so people will make fewer excuses for his foolishness. He does have great anticipation and hands.
  16. bigE79

    bigE79 Active Member

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    Any prospect with Cliff Harris as his name cant be all bad:laugh2:

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