Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by erod, Apr 18, 2014.
Charean Williams@NFLCharean 6m
Kyle Orton doesn't show up for Day 1 of Cowboys' off-season program
Hey, at least he's not dumb, not many people get hurt holding a clipboard. Orton's really trying to extend his career, maximize his earning potential.
Ah, the Dallas Cowboys. A team that values backup quarterbacks and second-string tight ends but hasn't had a good starting safety in years.
Well, looky what we have here.
Yeah I hope he's got a better excuse than what do 'voluntary mean' for missing the first day of workouts.
I think Orton was at clipboard school.
We were struggling badly on offense the last couple of games with Romo. Orton moved the ball very well. We don't win that game with Romo.
Maybe 'cause of the ribs.
A) There is not a strong possibility that Orton could see significant playing time next year. Romo will do more offseason work this year than he did last and Orton didn't get in the game for meaningful minutes until week 17. Your assessment is purely conjecture and based on nothing but the need for you to create a narrative.
B) You have no idea if Orton could have been a starter next year. You have no idea why he choose Dallas over other opportunities. This is purely conjecture and based on nothing but the need for you to create a narrative.
C) Being a backup QB isn't just holding a clipboard and getting laid at team party outings. You need to study and learn the playbook and you need to practice and travel every day with the team. I don't know if you know this but NFL practices are no walk in the park.
D) We heard nothing all last year of Orton wanting to be done. But suddenly he was just "getting them checks?" This is purely conjecture and based on nothing but the need for you to create a narrative.
Having said all that...I would be happy if he retires. We save money. And if Orton has to play significant minutes (note this is not a strong possibility) this team is done anyway.
All in all not a great thread erod.
Neither did Suh. Is he retiring?
Or was it the back. I forgot.
You make a lot of good posts, but you're way, way in left field with this one.
It would have more credibility too if you had not basically identified yourself as a Romo-critic around these parts too, and unfairly so in my opinion.
trong disagree that he will not have to play
I could not care less what people here think of my credibility.
Thanksgiving Day against the lowly Raiders the offense looked horrible and we got down 21-7. We ended up winning the game because the running game was excellent as Murray and Dunbar went 29 carries for 145 yards. That and the Raiders suck.
We get murdered by the Bears. Murray goes 18 carries for 146 yards. Joseph Randle goes 9 carries for 53 yards. Romo goes 11-20 for 104 yards. The defense stunk, but Romo was badly ineffective.
Against an awful Redskins defense, Romo manages to go 17-27 for 226 yards. Again, Murray carries a big chunk of the load going 22 carries for 96 yards.
In his last 4 games, the only game Romo was good (and he was really good) was the Packers game. But again, Murray was unstoppable (18 carries for 134 yards).
Orton against the Eagles in the last game went 30-46 with 358 yards passing. Murray was only able to go 17 carries for 48 yards. Furthermore, the offense only had 1 penalty, on a bogus delay of game because the clock didn't reset.
If Murray only goes 17 for 48 yards against the Eagles, Romo isn't going to win that game either.
It's not all Romo's fault. Garrett is clueless on how to run an offense. He doesn't understand how to spot weaknesses in his own offense and tweak the offense to get better. His gameplans tend to have 1 or 2 focuses and if those don't work, then he's out of ideas on how to adjust. And he doesn't value the running game properly and continues to get beat by that and doesn't learn from it.
But the point of all of this is that Kyle Orton has been a solid pickup for the team. You don't want your backup QB playing. But when he does you hope that you don't miss a beat on offense. And we didn't with Orton when he played against the Eagles. He did a better job than Romo would have. If we had Orton as the full time starter, his production would be less because he doesn't have Romo's talent over the long haul.
If anything, Romo should study that game and see how much more efficient the passing game was and how we had less penalties when we weren't having the QB audible a half dozen times in the last 10 seconds of the play clock.
Kyle Orton retired from the NFL because he was frustrated with the NFL. He got sat in place of Tebow whom he was clearly better than. Denver gave the dude the shaft........ in front of the world mind you. He felt he paid his dues with Chicago and earned a starting job.
He had some pretty impressive stats with Denver until the great white hope showed up.
What in the blue hell is wrong with a quality backup? In all honesty, i would have been a little frustrated had he not come back. This team's mantra is lack of quality backups. We have one at a KEY position and it's suddenly not good enough?
We win that game by three touchdowns with Romo. Orton wouldn't throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. That game was held in check by the defense, and Murray was effective. A REAL quarterback would have won that game easily. Romo is, and Orton has always been Kyle Orton.
WORST DEFENSE IN NFL HISTORY.
What part of that is hard to comprehend? Peyton Manning would have gone 8-8 with this squad.
I replied in the quote.
Maybe Orton heard there was a new GUN SLINGER in town.?
Orton showed up last year. They kind of need quarterbacks to throw footballs at the practice thingy.
Especially guys that got a $5 million signing bonus that have played one game.
I don't expect him to retire because he doesn't want to give back $3 million of that bonus.