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Packers Cheerleader responds to cyber-bullying

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by Muhast, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. Blitzen32

    Blitzen32 Member

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    Completely agree with the facebook admins. This is NOT cyberbullying. It's unfortunate that she's using such a serious issue as a ploy to selfishly get a bad image of her removed.

    I don't condone the crude remarks, but it's a football fan page, and she chose to represent the team publicly (whether as a volunteer or not is besides the point), so she opened herself to this type of scrutiny from rival fans. She's more of a victim of her own narcissism and ego than any form of cyber bullying.

    Sure, I'd HATE if my loved ones were being called ugly (in multiple ways) on some fan page, but I'd know to just ignore it, especially if they were public figures in a situation like this. I'm sure the families of politicians, actresses, female athletes, etc. hear much worse directly aimed at their loved ones, and they have no choice but to ignore it.

    Yesterday, ******** took the worst photo of Beyonce ever, and turned it into a public photoshop contest to see who can make the most fun of it. Obviously Jay-z wouldn't be happy about something like that. It's actually much much worse than this bc in this cheerleader case, no one is directly attacking the girl by name or going on a witch hunt to ruin her life. We don't even know her name.

    She could easily just NOT click on the fan page for a team that she has zero association with, and none of this would effect her. That's far far different from what actual victims of cyber bullying have to deal with on the internet.
  2. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    It didn't look like it to me. I believe that is if they are saying that, I just didn't see a real resemblance. Honestly, it looked like the photo was shot in the 1970's.

    Still, people are entitled to their opinion. If they think she's ugly, then that's their opinion. People are going to say and do a lot worse to you in life.

    And I know what cyber bullying is. This ain't it.







    YR
  3. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/what-is-it/index.html


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying
  4. Blitzen32

    Blitzen32 Member

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    "Embarrassing pictures" doesn't apply here.

    This is a picture that only she is embarrassed by now because all the mean Bears fans called her (and the group of cheerleaders in general) ugly after seeing it. It's not some photo that was altered in any fashion to purposely bully her directly.

    She was more than happy with the fans who had nice things to say about her. That's called ego. Not bullying.
  5. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Posting a photo that people gang up and call ugly is indeed the definition of cyberbullying. That you can argue that fact is disturbing.
  6. Blitzen32

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    You obviously have had no clue what cyber bullying is then.

    Nobody is directly attacking this girl. She can go about her daily life without any sort of complications if she chooses to. That includes being able to check her twitter and facebook. No one even knows her name.

    Facebook (a public corp with lawyers who specialize in this) agreed that it's not cyber bullying, so I'll take that educated fact over what you're copy/pasting from whatever website you just googled to support a flawed opinion.
  7. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    That's same thing could be said of girls who were attacked on facebook in the same way, unfortunately some of those girls have committed suicide. When you make fun of someone and they find out about it hurts them. That is bullying!
  8. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    If you can't handle criticism, warranted or not, stay out of the public sphere and don't post your stuff online. IMO, that the trade-off for celebratory.
  9. Blitzen32

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    Dude, I know about those girls, and that's why I'm trying to explain that this is VERY different.

    Those girls don't stick their heads out SEEKING attention, and go out of the way to be in the spotlight (like a cheerleader for a freakin NFL team).

    The best part of this little video is how she was praising all the people who called her cute. She's got no problem with the celebrity status of being a cheerleader, and definitely no problem reading through anything positive about her picture. It just hurt her feelings when everyone didn't have that opinion.

    HUGE difference between this and cyber bullying.
  10. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    I don't think she was trying to be a celebrity per se. She didn't go into this expecting to get this type of attention good or bad.

    I agree with you though for big celebrities that are so offended by paparazzi and the rest of their lives having to deal with the public, they need to accept that is part of their career.
  11. BringBackThatOleTimeBoys

    BringBackThatOleTimeBoys Active Member

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    I'm disappointed a number of you with callous responses.

    Maybe the Packer's cheerleader's video is a poor copy to what Amanda Todd did.

    Realize many of you react before you know WTH is really going on so I'll thumbnail it.
    • Amanda, a teen in BC, Canada gets on social media
    • Some creepy guy (who is currently under arrest for preying on another teen girl) entices her to sext
    • Amanda falls for it
    • Creepy guy turns from 'friend' to nightmare by publizing sexting photos of Amanda
    • Amanda's parents move a couple of towns because school kids make it unbearable for her
    • She gets treatment for depression, make a video
    • Last year, she took her own life....think she was just 14.

    ....the the response of some here is ****TOUGH LUCK****

    Some of the same people that might hate on Ben Roethlisberger, Jerry Sandusky...this creep in BC drove a teen to take her life!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

    The credibility of some here took a plunge - you rant about stuff you either don't really know or worse don't care.

    Oh the internet is so wonderful as it enables people to anonymously say things that elsewhere would get them beat to a pulp or arrested - even in an anything goes Northern European country.

    Sports vitrol is one thing but contempt at victims of trollers making their life a living Hell even to the point of sucide...do you have enough sense to be ashamed of yourselfs? Probably not. :(

    Maybe I should spend less time here.


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  12. Blitzen32

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    Ok, tell me the name of the cheeleader in OP's video.

    If you want to cluelessly compare this to Amanda Todd (a person who was directly victimized multiple times, in multiple ways), then get your facts straight.

    No one here is condoning the Amanda Todd story. That was true bullying in many forms. You might not understand the difference, but don't be so quick to judge others who actually do.
  13. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Zone Supporter

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    This does seem to fall under the definition of cyber bullying. It's certainly not as severe as Amanda Todd's case, but it's cyber bullying nonetheless.

    Here's an idea: Let's all just be decent human beings.
  14. VietCowboy

    VietCowboy Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.

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    I have a feeling a lot of people posting in this thread would have told their child who was complaining about other student in the class teasing them to quite their whining or STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Most kids do get through life with bullying, but it is still bullying regardless of the degree of inflicted harm on the victim.

    Bullying, of any kind, is an act intended to threaten, coerce, or inflict harm. Insulting someone, particularly if it was repeatedly like in this situation across perpetrators. Just read many website's definition of bullying and you'll see this fits in.

    http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/bully.htm

    http://pbskids.org/itsmylife/friends/bullies/

    - emphasis added by me

    http://www.education.com/reference/article/what-bullying-teasing-school/
  15. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Zone Supporter

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    :bravo:
  16. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    I agree but there is a bigger picture than just stop hating ppl on the internet and that is, do people have the right to post a picture and make comments about it?

    I mean if it were a picture of her in a dress at a formal event and someone comments that she should not wear that dress because it looks wrong on her or it is incorrect for that event, is that cyber-bullying?

    I think I have to side with the ones saying that they can post pictures and make comments, even the rude ones like this. I still think they are jerks for doing it but they have the right to be crass, and facebook agrees with them.

    Also there are laws governing some actions on the internet, i.e. death threats, or defamation etc.

    It is a grey area because if this were not an adult and it were a 13 year old girl it would be different the way it is handled.
  17. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Zone Supporter

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    We're not really discussing rights here. The fact that someone has a right to insult someone else doesn't negate the possibility of bullying. Breaking a law isn't a prerequisite for bullying.

    And doesn't she have the right to make a video in which she calls out her tormentors?

    Personally, I like the way she went about it. She didn't get the law involved. She simply made a video to turn public pressure against the page. Kudos to her.

    Depends on the how the comment was offered, but probably not. However, there's a rather wide difference between offering commentary on one's choice of attire and the comments seen in this video.
  18. Blitzen32

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    If my child or other loved one were being directly bullied in any way, we would address it to make sure that it ended.

    Cyber bullying, and real life bullying, are unfortunately not as easy to avoid as merely just not clicking on a specific facebook page.

    This girl in the OP was a public celebrity (cheerleaders for NFL teams certainly fit that category), and she's upset that fans of other teams said mean stuff about her. According to her, it's ok to say nice stuff...just stop the mean stuff.

    BIG difference between that and the bullying that you speak of.

    Now, should we all be decent with each other in general? Of course.

    Like I said previously, if Facebook (and their army of brilliant people assigned who specialize in these exact matters) factually determined that it wasn't cyber bullying, then I'd go with their assessment.
  19. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    When you get older, you can appreciate youth a bit more I think. That girl, to me, is not ugly. She is not a beauty queen but I don't think that only people who are drop dead gorgeous qualify as pretty either. It's unfortunate that people are as superficial as they are and it's even worse that the net provides a forum from which to compound this behavior 10K fold.

    It's the reality of life today. What will result from this is that a girl like this will not want to be a cheerleader. Only girls who are physically gorgeous will want to and that's a shame.
  20. VietCowboy

    VietCowboy Be Realistic. Demand the Impossible.

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    I'm sorry if you are using Facebook's determination as your reasoning. The fact of the matter is that Facebook errs on the side of freedom of speech. Here's another example of Facebook not doing anything, and it is clearly cyberbullying:

    http://www.euronews.com/2013/01/07/facebook-criticised-for-allowing-cyber-bullying/

    So that is not cyberbullying? making threats? Yet, facebook did nothing.

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