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Passing D still a scary ways away

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Nation, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Comparison of the Cowboys pass D and the Super Bowl Champion pass D the past 3 years. Put a wanted poster out for any and all defensive linemen available in the 2014 draft and free agency.

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  2. CowboysFaninDC

    CowboysFaninDC Well-Known Member

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    its about the DL. the DBs in seattle are good, but they won't be as successful without a great DL that can pressure the QB.
  3. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    The sad thing is Jerry does not know this information and nobody around him will provide him this information.
  4. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    A good cover safety and a few pass rushers away.
  5. Reverend Conehead

    Reverend Conehead Well-Known Member

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    It's quite simple. If the D line improves, the entire D improves. If not, we're in for a lllloooonnnggg season and likely worse than an 8 and 8 record. We'll be drafting D linemen. We'll get Crawford back. Bring in a free agent? Not sure on that one. We've got cap problems.
  6. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    They blitzed Peyton Manning on only 6-of-51 dropbacks last night. Jim's and Joe's not X's and O's for sure. And yet we change coordinators every year.
  7. CopenhagenCowboy

    CopenhagenCowboy Active Member

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    I used to believe this. But if I learned anything from the game yesterday, it is that you need more than just a very strong DL. Yes, getting constant pressure up front is where you start. But without at least one exceptional safety, very athletic LBs and an overall identity to play as hard as you can, you'll come up short compared to these guys. What an amazing unit that SEA defense is. Manning almost faced a collapsed pocket and coverage sacks the entire game. They were closing small windows so fast in all areas. And when the Broncos receivers actually caught the ball, they were constantly hammered down by LBs and DBs.
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  8. Leadbelly

    Leadbelly Well-Known Member

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    Sherman deserves every penny he gets on his next contract. He might be my favorite player in the NFL. The thing that stood out to me about their DBs -- really their whole defense -- is how fast the recognize what's happening and swarm the ball. They all looked like they were a flock of birds that all change direction in unison.

    We're like the opposite of 'on the same page'. I think we made strides this past year in terms of more guys being around the ball, but we have some slow learners on the team and other guys who were overmatched. Hopeful about what we can do with a fixed pass rush.
  9. CowboysFaninDC

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    seahawks didn't give manning much time. they also played more hungry or so it seemed. manning didn't have time to throw. same thing with giants both their superbowl wins. when you can rush with your front 4 and/or 6, then you can drop an extra into the passing lanes and makes it much harder to pass against. strong DL, that can rush the passer without blitzing.
  10. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    That's what happens when one unit trusts the other to do their job. Seattle can jump routes and that sort of thing because they know the guys up front are going to make the QB get rid of the ball quickly. Pass rushers know that corners will give them enough time to actually get there, and none of them are scared of making a mistake because someone else can make a play.

    I don't think ANY one of those things happens in Dallas.
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  11. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    From middling. We're losing our best rusher this offseason, in Hatcher, and who knows what we might get out of Ware if he even comes back. I think we've got a full two off seasons to go, with no mistakes, before we can field a dominating defense. But I could live with an ok one for a season, if we can even get there.
  12. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Out of 7 primary contributors to Seattle's DLine, 3 of them were signed as free agents in 2013:
    Michael Bennett - free agent 2013, age 28
    Tony McDaniel - free agent 2013, age 29
    Cliff Avril - free agent 2013, age 27
    Red Bryant
    Chris Clemons
    Clinton McDonald
    Brandon Mebane
  13. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Yeah, I know. They looked stacked to me before it started, then added Bennett and Avril (and McDaniel). I'd love it if we could add that sort of value in one offseason given where our cap is, I just don't think it's likely. I guess we'll see, because we're definitely going to be active along the DL, given how much juggling we did there during the season. I'm sure there are reasonable VFAs we like out there, and I fully expect us to sign at least two of them, along with drafting another two or three more.
  14. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    There has to be a large number of players available somewhere in the middle of the salary range between Ware (12.25M) and Everett Brown (630K).

    Seattle let the market come to them which allowed them to get bargains. The Cowboys need to keep some cap space available and look for these types of players. As long as they don't use the franchise tag, they'll have room to operate.
  15. cowboyblue22

    cowboyblue22 Active Member

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    if the cowboys had got rid of spencer last season they could of have added extra players on the defensive line
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Yeah, but, had Spencer not been injured, they wouldn't have needed to.
  17. Leadbelly

    Leadbelly Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't happen because we change the entire defensive scheme/coaching staff every couple of years. I'm sure a consistent stream of street free agents playing starter snaps also does not help.
  18. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    seattle secondary makes ours look like swim suit models. Did you see the way there cb's and safeties flew to the ball and hit. Our corners and safeties (heath) bounce off ball carriers. Church maybe the only person in our secondary that can hit. Wilcox maybe if he gets to play. They don't call them LOB for nothing.
  19. jobberone

    jobberone Right turn Clyde Staff Member

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    We could be in trouble.
  20. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Probably.

    I think the fact that even the best players, like Ware, have made so many mistakes over the years that its just really difficult to trust anybody.

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