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Pastor Draws Protests

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Doomsday101, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    A Phoenix-area pastor has started to draw protesters to his congregation after he delivered a sermon titled, "Why I Hate Barack Obama," and told his parishioners that he prays for President Obama's death.

    Pastor Steven Anderson stood by his sermon in an interview with MyFOXPhoenix, which reports that the pastor continues to encourage his parishioners to join him in praying for the president's death.

    "I hope that God strikes Barack Obama with brain cancer so he can die like Ted Kennedy and I hope it happens today," he told MyFOXPhoenix on Sunday. He called his message "spiritual warfare" and said he does not condone killing.

    But a small crowd of protesters gathered around his church Sunday, calling Anderson's words "incomprehensible." And MyFOXPhoenix reported that the sermon, which has drawn widespread attention, led to death threats against the pastor.

    Anderson's inflammatory message stems in part from Obama's abortion-rights stance.

    In Anderson's controversial sermon, delivered at his Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe before Obama arrived for a speech in Phoenix earlier in the month, the pastor said he wants the president to "melt like a snail" with salt on it.

    "I'm gonna pray that he dies and goes to hell when I go to bed tonight. That's what I'm gonna pray," he told his congregation.

    The last time fierce opposition to Obama's abortion position drew widespread attention was when Obama delivered the commencement address at the University of Notre Dame.

    The Anderson sermon also drew concern after it was reported that one man carrying an assault rifle outside the Phoenix arena where Obama spoke was a member of Anderson's church.
  2. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I can tell you if I was a member of this man church I would leave it right away. I may not agree with President Obama on many issues and I hope when he is up for re-election he looses but this is completely uncalled for. Like him or not he is the President of the United States
  3. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    This guy is an idiotic hate monger ....... just like President Obama's spiritual adviser.
  4. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I find it hard to think of this person as a man of god.
  5. Rackat

    Rackat Active Member

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    He's not. Neither is Rev. Wright. You cannot teach contrary to the Bible and be considered a man of God.
  6. bbgun

    bbgun Benched

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    This guy should be defrocked, if that's the correct term.
  7. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    Wow. Wow.
  8. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    "Laicize" is the more proper term, though defrocked, while being more slang-ish, is used more often.
  9. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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  10. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    Do people use the term "defrocked" when describing anyone other than a Catholic priest, though? I don't think i've ever heard that used in regards to a protestant minister.

    Hey wait: this isn't a religious discussion, is it?
  11. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Religious from a technical/informational point of view. And no, defrocked can apply to protestants as well. Anyone who was ordained can be defrocked.
  12. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Let's not turn this thread into more than it is at this point. :)

    On a side note, for some reason the term defrocked just makes me feel naughty...in a good way.
  13. CowboyWay

    CowboyWay If Coach would have put me in, we'd a won State

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    That guys frocking nuts.
  14. Phrozen Phil

    Phrozen Phil Active Member

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    No to worry. This "pastor" isn't making a religious statement as much as it is a political statement. Disguising it as a religious stance is what concerns me.
  15. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    I'm pretty sure that's more of a Catholic concept. And if a Catholic priest was doing something like this, it's likely he would be excommunicated, which is a big step further than laicized. My dad is a laicized Catholic Priest, and it was definitely a process where he wanted to no longer be a priest but still be active in the church, and the laicization process is the proper means to do that. When you're involuntarily removed, it's a different matter altogether, which may involve both laicization and excommunication.

    But as someone else observed, this guy's a Baptist, and I don't know what their rules are... although I'd assume "love thy neighbor" is still one of them.

    This guy seems like he has a screw loose... either that or he's just trying to get attention.
  16. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Hmm, you could be right about the "laicized" term. But I have defnitely seen the term "defrocked" used to describe protestant officials as well.
  17. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    Again, just talking about Catholics here because that's what I know.

    Holy Orders are considered a permanent sacrament. So once you are a Priest you are always a Priest, no matter what. If you either want to be relieved of your duties or the Church wants to relieve you of them for whatever reason, they can do that, but you are still technically a Priest.

    So effectively you become a "layperson" / are "laicized" and you no longer can officiate the sacraments. There is a provision, whereby if someone wants last rites performed before their death, and you can't possibly get them to an active Priest (like if they're on their deathbed or on a plane that's going down, etc) a laicized priest can perform those last rites.
  18. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    You wouldn't sit there for 20 years listening to an idiot? You mean you have enough back bone to get up and leave when you pastor turns into a lunctic? Too bad Barack Obama does not possess such courage.
  19. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Totally absurd.

    And whatever congregation this so called pastor has should leave him immediately. Everyone knows I want Obama removed from office, but this is not the way. And encouraging his death is only going to foster hate and some kook out there is going to take a shot at him.

    Despicable.
  20. TheRat

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