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Pat Kirwin on RB's

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by dbair1967, Apr 12, 2008.

  1. DaBoys4Life

    DaBoys4Life Benched

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    chris johnson is the number 1 senior RB so this guy needs to put down the pipe
  2. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

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    I would be thrilled with Rice in round two....possibly at 28, depending on who's available.

    I also really like Matt Forte'.
  3. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    espn doesn't record fumbles for some reason


    this was back in august of 2007, while I'm not trying to say he has a fumbling problem, using 910 carries w/o a fumble to justify drafting him is incorrect
  4. MCowboys

    MCowboys New Member

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    I think Tashard Choice is very underrated. I wouldn't mind him at all in the late 2nd if Rice weren't there, and would love if he fell to us in the 3rd.
  5. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    Ray Rice > Jamaal Charles
  6. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

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    Choice is a forgotten player.

    He was very good at GT this year. Most folks wondered how good he'd be without Calvin Johnson, but he did very well.
  7. This is Our Year

    This is Our Year Ohama, Kill, 52 is the Mike

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    The more I hear/read about Chris Johnson he sounds like a Michael Bennett type of player.
  8. MCowboys

    MCowboys New Member

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    Good 1300 yard Michael Bennett, or bad rest of his career Michael Bennett?
  9. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Has this guy really seen Chris Johnson. Johnson is much more elusive a RB than TT was. All it takes is one guy to say something negative and everyone turns off. He's not my number one RB but we don't have a chance of getting the top two backs. Stewart is now out of that top tier because of injury. And I agree Rice is great value at our second round pick. But do you really think he will be there. I think he's right on about Jones.
  10. ndanger

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  11. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

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    I'd be pretty happy with Ray Rice in the 2nd. I thikn we'll have to move up to get him.

    I'll repeat my manta of CB at 22, pray for a vet WR at 28 (if not that , I like Hardy), then jump up in the 2nd and get Rice.
  12. Kolemmitt

    Kolemmitt Active Member

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    The biggest thing for me, is that unless one of the big three fall to us, I don't want to spend a 1st round draft pick on one of the other guys. Now if we trade back into early round 2, then I wouldn't mind looking at a guy, starting with Rice.
    I would be pretty happy with Johnson starting in round 2, as an overall offensive weapon. KR, reciever, and change of pace back. I think his speed and his recieving ability out of the backfield would cause a lot of problems for defensive coordinators. But if we do take him, I would still want a more conventional RB later in the draft. Maybe a Choice, Forte, or Boyd starting in round 4.
  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I like your thinking.
  14. Ceasaleo88

    Ceasaleo88 New Member

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    I understand people's resistance to pickin up Felix Jones. I was against it too but if we don't trade that #28 pick for a vet WR, then I wouldn't mind picking him up. The argument against him is that he'll just be a change of pace back and special teamer, not able to take over a full load of carries....

    BUT think about this for a second, Jones will be the best back to compliment Barber and adds incredible value as a returner. I think that he could get to a Pro Bowl as a returner, not as a rookie tho. He definitely has breakaway speed, has some shakes, and from what I've seen he may not be an excellent inside runner, but he's willing and he hits the hole a lot harder than Julius used to.

    OK OK the main point is this... even tho he might not be able to carry the load if Barber goes down, as long as Barber is healthy he's a perfect piece to the puzzle. AND remember we need 2 backs, so why not take the best fit to establish an even scarier offensive attack in Jones, then come back later in the draft and pick a guy like BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Chauncey Washington, or Thomas Brown. A guy more suited to taking on a bulk of the carries in the normal offense as a true back up RB, and not the extra starter that Jones would be.
  15. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Makes sense.

    People are also forgetting the message being sent to Barber. If we draft a true COMPLIMENT back, then it looks like we have 100% faith in Barber to be the guy and he may be more willing to sign long-term.

    If we draft one of the big 3 that could be a FEATURED back, I think this sends the message to Barber that the team is not 100% sure if he can be the featured back and that we are picking up some "insurance".

    Just something to think about.

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