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PED's are the 13th man?

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by bsheeern, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Most of this is old news but now with the Spotlight clearly on Seattle it makes you wonder what would we really be "copying" if we tried the "Seattle Approach"

    Richard Sherman has stated he believes 50% of the league uses Adderall.
    Last year, Browner and Richard Sherman, the two starting cornerbacks of the Seattle Seahawks, both faced 4-game suspensions for reportedly testing positive for a banned substance. At the time, multiple reports identified the substance as Adderall. Browner chose not to appeal the positive test and served his suspension. Sherman appealed the suspension and won on appeal. Sherman's appeal was based on errors in the chain of custody of his urine sample and that there were mistakes made by the tester.

    Earlier in the year, News came that Browner will be suspended for an entire year as a repeat offender, and cornerback Walter Thurmond has joined him with a four-game suspension for his own league violations. The Browner and Thurmond suspensions are the seventh and eighth for the team in the last three seasons, (the Highest in the NFL).

    We are hearing about more and more NFL players testing positive for Adderall. However, there is no test administered by the NFL to confirm it is Adderall. Rather, the drug test identifies what type of banned substance (e.g., anabolic steroid, amphetamine, and/or masking agent) was found in the system. Adderall is a brand name for one type of amphetamine. For example, if a player uses Adderall, the NFL's drug screenings don't register which particular drug a player took -- the results only show positive for amphetamines.

    Let's not Forget what condition Pete Carrol left USC in. Carroll has created a team that is incredibly fun to watch, extremely difficult to beat, and nearly impossible to trust. They have the NFL’s best record on the field, and quite possibly the NFL’s worst everywhere else.

    Jimmy Johnson all over again?? Can anyone deny how much their situations resemble each other?

    Maybe Carroll's newest era comes at a time where News comes in seconds vs years later in tell all books, but could Carroll be creating yet another Jimmy Johnson type culture that will go down in flames wearing mink coats?
  2. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Lol at calling aderrall a PED. Like the players are back in college and popping them before a furious all night library session.
  3. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I don't think Adderall gives an athelete a huge advantage. In fact, it makes them more likely to get dehydrated and cramp up.
  4. Joe Rod

    Joe Rod When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong

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    And Dehydration can lead to pulled Hamstrings. Therefore the Dallas Cowboys are raging Adderall junkies.
  5. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Or, ya know, a film session on your next opponent.

    Aderall is absolutely a PED.

    The difference is that its benefits are in preparation rather than the actual game. And on the defensive side of the ball, where play recognition is a huge factor, that's a notable edge you'll have.
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  6. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    Call it PEDs -- whatever.

    I saw a freaking ferocious defense out there yesterday. Those guys left it all out on the field yesterday and they put the Broncos on their heals with their hard hits. You can be on PEDs all you want -- but they don't influence the effort you put out.
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  7. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Are you familiar with amphetamines? Speed? You know similar chemical compounds that are in meth? The stuff that's been in Bath salts?

    Have you seen how it affects people?
  8. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Well maybe you're not familiar with what's in Adderall. It's amphetamine salts.

    Amphetamines are not new to the NFL or major league sports. For decades, since the 1950's, many players used "greenies," an amphetamine, which masked pain and fatigue. It also increased alertness, reaction time and accelerated speed. Players quickly found alternative means to get the same effect.
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  9. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Actually they do,they are called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They make you "get up and go" when you normally wouldn't or wouldn't want to.
  10. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Actually they do,they are called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They make you "get up and go" when you normally wouldn't or wouldn't want to.
  11. bsheeern

    bsheeern Well-Known Member

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    Actually they do,they are called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They make you "get up and go" when you normally wouldn't or wouldn't want to.
  12. rags747

    rags747 Well-Known Member

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    Bid deal Adderall, plenty of 1-12th graders using it to focus on their studies in our schools daily. This is somehow bad for grown adults to up their mental performance...Ridiculous. Just more nanny state BS.
  13. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    You would be surprised....
  14. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Exactly.

    These things are like currency on college campuses. The only performance enhancement that I would ever use them for is furious, geeked out, last minute library sessions.
  15. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    With all due respect, sir, you have no idea what you are talking about. The first being that if it didn't give the players an advantage, they wouldn't bother using it. Check out amphetamines and it's history in sports.

    I've personally seen people whacked out so bad on meth (an amphetamine) that it took six full grown men to bring ONE GUY under control. It absolutely has a physical and mental effect on the user.
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  16. Floaty

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    there is no doubt in my mind the whole damn team was on something yesterday. They made Denver look incredibly slow...and old. Seattle definitely pushing the edge on all fronts. Stealing the coin flip. PED use. Late hits. How many time can Cam Chancellor lead w/ his head and not get called? Pete Carroll has set up a program where "pushing it" to the limit on all fronts is encouraged.
  17. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Lol at comparing crystal meth to ADD drugs.
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  18. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    The point still stands, genius. If it didn't give the players an advantage, they wouldn't bother using it.
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  19. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. HGH isn't bad for you either if you're of the right age, but it's not allowed because it's a PED. To deny that Aderall enhances performance is false as well.
  20. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, to compare the two is laughable.

    The problem is that people watch our Div 3 defense where guys are just standing around and then they watch Seattle's defense and they look like Super humans so folks immediately think they must be juicing.

    LOL
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