Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Bowdown27, Jan 16, 2013.
And I'm sure that will translate to the NFL as well.
Not good for us...not good at all. The NFL is changing, Chip Kelly is perfect for the new generation of NFL offenses
So, does that mean Michael Vick stays with the eagles?
Or, do they draft Geno Smith in the 1st rd?
Or, do they just go with Foles?
Perhaps Alex Smith?
Those guys have tremendous presence. Chip Kelly looks like the guy at Jiffy Lube.
Look at Chip Kelly. Doesn't exude leadership, culture, organizational skills. Just a typical, ordinary coach.
He can't cheat in the pros with recruiting. He doesn't have those 57 Oregon uniforms that all the 17-year-old kids love. He can't play sissy Pac-10 defenses every week.
To that extreme? Maybe not. But the NFL is clearly moving in the direction of the kind of offense Kelly pioneered at Oregon. I'm sure he sat back and watched what Kaepernick did to GB and thought "Oh crap, I can dominate the NFL".
I think it's a great move. A gamble, yes. But i think it's worth it.
Spurrier's problem was his unwillingness to adjust. He thought he could round up all his U. of Florida of players, implement his system and have an offensive juggernaut. When that didn't happen and he got his teeth kicked in, he basically gave up and checked out. Chip Kelly doesn't appear to have that type of attitude, but we'll see...
No it's not, unless you want to carry five quarterbacks on your roster because they keep getting maimed.
Defensive coordinators are going to work on the read option all offseason, and the quarterback running it is going to get face-planted every time he runs it, handoff or not.
Did any of those coaches run anything that was not seen as a normal system in NFL terms?
Spurrier might be a good comparison because many did not think his system would work well in the NFL.
Some question if Kelly's system would work in the NFL.
I've always said the same about Mike Mcarthy... He looks/sounds like a truck driver.
Looks don't tell you a whole lot.
What is Kelly without that offense? He's John Garrett.
The key to beating Kelly's offense at Oregon was to be better in the trenches. Usually only happened when he went up against an SEC team. They got penetration and disrupted the offense.
I disagree completely. Today's game is moving towards these types of offense and this type of pace. I recently read an article that talked about Moore, Peyton Manning's old OC from Indy, he went into detail of the DIG play they used to great success and how simple it was. They fell back onto the DIG play over and over to get out of difficult situations. The Broncos are now using a similar play with the same concept called DAG.
The days of a 900 page playbook where a team wouldn't even use a quarter of it and only a handful of plays are consistently effective are over. The best coaches take their best plays, and they run it until you can stop it. This season we've seen how undisciplined defenses have been burned, and the high number of undisciplined defenses has been alarming. I think Kelly's offense can be effective, although he will have to make some adjustments to remain competitive.
Yeah, because Bill Belichick looks like General freaking Schwarzkopf right? Give me a break.
That bolded part is so ridiculous. Please give me some examples of how Chip Kelly doesn't "exude leadership, culture, organizational skills". Please tell me how you can make a statement like that, especially considering you've likely never spent any time around the man or his program.
Is his system really all that abnormal now? When the best coach in the league visits him to figure out how to translate his offense to the NFL, it may be time to realize that it isn't some out of left field concept, but actually the future of the NFL.
You mean SEC doesn't cheap on reruiting?
Oregon sure played Alabama hell of a lot closer than Notre Dame in Championship games.
I don't know how he will do in NFL but I wouldn't sell him short. Anyone who has the guts to try a new type of offense that has been nothing short of dominating is worthy of some respect.
Chip Kelly could end up being the Jimmy Johnson that Jason Garrett will never be.
Chip Kelly's success in the NFL will depend much more on the Eagles acquiring talent, his defense playing well, and Chip's ability to adjust when the NFL adjusts to him.
Until someone runs a college spread offense (passing or running version) with regular success than YES it is abnormal right now.
Either way I was talking about the comparison to coaches who ran normal systems vs those that run systems that are not the norm and no matter how you try to frame it...at this time his system is not the norm in the NFL even if people take pieces of it here and there.
Now 5-10 years from now it might be the norm as fewer and fewer teams are running normal offenses in the college ranks as more move towards spread offenses and that could mean there will be a shortage of pro style QBs and QBs who can only thrive in a spread system.
But again...my main point I was making still stands at this time.
Pete Carroll was not an NCAA coach who made the transition to the NFL. He was a long-time NFL assistant, who had been an NFL head coach twice before he ever went to USC. And even then, it took until his third season in Seattle to get a winning record.
Remember the Wild Cat-fad? Exactly. A fad. Defenses evolve and adapt. Nice try though.