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Peterson to start for OU Saturday!

Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by Danny White, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. DallasCowpoke111

    DallasCowpoke111 Benched

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    R. Williams - No argument there

    T. Harris - By most accounts, drafted WAY to high, undersized, injury prone and unproven rookie. Jury's still out.

    Q. Griffin - If it wasn't for circumstances, he'd be a 2nd-tier RB on most NFL teams.

    T. Casillas - WOW, Stoops MUST be a great coach if he can affect the career of a player he never even COACHED!!

    D. Strait - Uhhh, refresh my memory, he's on WHAT NFL roster again??

    R. Calmus - 44 solo tackles, 13 ast's, and 1 sack in two full seasons + 3 games... not exac stellar.
  2. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I have no vested interest in either the Texas or Oklahoma teams...so there is no bias when I speak of either.

    However it would seem that Texas has been playing the role of the Redskins and Oklahoma has been playing the role of the Cowboys in the rivalry.

    I just can not understand how Texas can have so much talent and yet seem to fall by the waste side vs oklahoma every year.

    I can only come up with 3 possible conclusions.

    1. Oklahoma has superior talent.

    2. Oklahoma has superior Coaching.

    3. Oklahoma just has the Longhorns number.

    I know the skins at times have had better talent and better coaching yet Dallas was able to beat them...that is why I added the #3 option...but IMO both have pretty similar levels of talent (player wise)...so I think it just has to be the coaching.
  3. SoTex

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    Friend? I hate you......... :D
  4. SoTex

    SoTex Giddy Up

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    It is a little like that BP. Only, unlike the Cowboys, Oklahoma doesn't lead the All-Time series. I will admit, however, it has been ugly as of late.
  5. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    Keep believing the UT hype spewing forth out of Austin. You cant tune into a net broadcast out of Austin without them harping all about AD. Its obsession man. They are still in shock the kid plays north of the border.

    Oklahoma? GASP !!! How could he??? Cross to bear...

    Im still lmao at that one bro....


    Boomer !!
  6. SoTex

    SoTex Giddy Up

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    ......and the State of Texas for supplying the players.


    (Stoops is a damn good coach. It pains me to admit it, but he is.)
  7. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    Really sad when the players of said state want to play somewhere else. That really does have to be a gut check. Speaks loads of the program and how its being handled in Austin.


    Boomer !!
  8. DallasCowpoke111

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    Yeaaaaa, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do w/ sports being cyclical.

    3 or more wins by either team over last 50+ years:

    03 - 00 / OU

    99 - 97 / UT

    92 - 89 / UT

    88 - 85 / OU

    75 - 71 / OU

    70 - 67 / UT

    65 - 58 / UT

    57 - 52 / OU


    Yeaaaaa, my bad, it's coaching. :rolleyes:
  9. DallasCowpoke111

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    So does this apply to a Troy Aikman type too?
  10. SoTex

    SoTex Giddy Up

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    There is nothing sad about living in a state that has such an abundance of talent it can be spread out all over the country and still field very competive in state schools. It "is" sad that OU has been beating the crap out of UT lately. Hell, I'll admit it. I'm a fan until the end though. Win, lose or draw. Just like my Cowboys. :D
  11. lzppjb

    lzppjb New Member

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    I never said anything about our DLine. Read it again, and this time pay attention. I said Derrick Johnson. You know...the best linebacker in the nation?

    Tommie Harris was overrated. He never did anything other than crap a helmet on the cover of SI. Look up his stats.

    I'm not making a "we will win" declaration. But I'm sick and tired of all the doom and gloom coming from Texas fans, and espcially the cocky bastards from north of the Red. Texas has a better chance this year than last year for sure. Running game, tight ends and an aggressive, pro-style D are what helps.

    In the past, we couldn't run consistently. Sure, Benson would usually put up big numbers against the patsies, but would disappear in big games. Why? Because our OLine would get dominated. We had good size and strength up front, but until last year our blocking schemes were awful. We ran all these zone blocking plays. Last year we got a new OLine coach, and his smash mouth style has finally taken hold. We're #1 in the nation in rushing this year with 370 yds/game. Benson, for the first time, didn't play baseball this summer. He concentrated on football and getting stronger. He lost 10-15 lbs and has regained a lot of his mobility, balance and speed he once had. I know you'll say we've only played weak teams. Which is true, but take this into consideration. In 2002, under the old scheming, we played North Texas in the season opener and were held to only 27 yards rushing. This year against North Texas in the opener, we had 513 yards rushing. Just a slight difference.

    You may notice our defense has been so-so, and isn't generating any sacks. You'd be right. You'd also be right if you said we've run the base D the entire season so far. Against UNT, we didn't respect their passing game. They had 2 good RBs, so we stuffed the box. Few blitzes = few sacks. Arkansas' Matt Jones is a beast to handle. He's tall, fast as hell, and strong. The D concentrated on contain all night. If we blitzed too aggressively, he'd go by us and be in the secondary. He's 6'5, 225 lbs or so and runs a 4.4. He's sickening. Rice is an old school wishbone team. They rarely pass. Our D concentrated on assignments and stopping the option. No real chance to blitz or mix up our coverages. Under our old scheme, we almost never ran zones. We'd be man-to-man, we'd walk our LBs up to the line of scrimmage (where they could get mauled by the OLine), and hope for the best. We're going to run a lot more zone this year, which will give us more looks to blitz out of. Our linebackers are no longer getting mugged at the LOS, so they're making more plays. Oh yeah...DJ will be blitzing a lot more this year. Best LB in the nation...we should use him right for once.
  12. Roughneck

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    Maybe for the past few years but, just like Dallas does over Washington, Texas has control of the series against OU (sucks).
  13. DallasCowpoke111

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    Trust me, I'm right there w/ you.

    Dallas, on the other hand, I take his as a little more venomous, what w/ the derogatory references and all. But even that I just right that off to him being raised in OK, and even those that don't attend 1 of the big 2 Universities, are generally fiercely loyal to one of them.































    P.S. DIE SOONER DOG, DIE!!!

    :p
  14. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    Ya know. Im not even reading this puke. Ya know why? Your homer way is just the way you see it. Thats all good.

    Come back after Oct 9th and appologize to us OU fans then.

    BTW.... PLEASE BLITZ!!! BLITZ BLITZ !!!!


    You'll be SORRRRRY !!!!


    Boomer !!
  15. lzppjb

    lzppjb New Member

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    From the Daily Oklahoman...

  16. lzppjb

    lzppjb New Member

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    My "homer ways" were just echoed by 2 coaches who absolutely hate Texas. Moreso than any land thief. Nutt played at Arky and was a part of the rivalry. Hatfield coached Arky as well back when the rivalry was strong. They have no reason to lie and say good things about Texas.

    Apology my ***. Terra-cleptics can kiss my ***.
  17. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    Now come on. We are all friends here. The OU/TEXAS thing goes way deep. It is my Oklahoma roots that come out when debating this back and forth. There is as much passion there as my beloved Cowboys.

    I dont mean any disrespect to you as a person. I do hope you know that. Im not getting personal with anyone here that I can see. Its all school rivalry. As it SHOULD BE.


    If you cant hack it....Get your jacket!! :D


    BOOMER !!!
  18. DallasCowpoke111

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    Don't worry, I don't take it personally. The "whoren" deal I do find a bit unnecessary, but trust me D, I spent 4 long years on the 40 acres, in the Texas spring sun, I know ALL about "rivalry"!!
  19. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    I appologize for the whoren comment. I probably could have picked a better way of saying it. But at the time...well..... :D


    Oct 9th bro. Im GIDDY.


    I will say this. If Texas does win then I will come in here and take my ribbin.


    Boomer !!
  20. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Well let me say again...I have no vested interest in either team...therefore I do not know the long history of the rivalry.

    However at this time it is plain to see that Oklahoma OWNS Texas and I have heard many say that it is the coaching that is the difference.

    I have heard many Longhorn fans on the ticket claiming they need a new coach because Brown can't get the job done vs Oklahoma.

    Cycles may indeed be the situation...but once again Do you think many people believe that the coaching (whether good or bad for either team) is the deciding factor?

    IF....Stoops at the end of this season went to the Texas Universities front office to speak to the athletic director and said...I Know Mack is the coach but if you got rid of him I would like to be the head coach for your school starting next year....Do you think that the school would say no thanks or would they jump up and say hell yes welcome aboard... IMO they would be jumping for joy and welcoming him as the new coach.

    Now take that same situation and say mack brown went to Oklahoma and said
    I Know Stoops is the coach but if you got rid of him I would like to be the head coach for your school starting next year....Do you think that the school would say no thanks or would they jump up and say hell yes welcome aboard....I think they would say no thanks.

    But those are just scenarios and opinions.

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