PFF 2012 Year End Rankings: Cowboys Defensive Backs

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  1. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Standard Disclaimer -- These are PFF rankings. PFF data is hotly contested from being insightful / useful all the way to the other extreme of being trash. Mileage will vary:

    2012 Year End Position Rankings for Defensive Backs


    56/113 - Orlando Scandrick
    57/113 - Brandon Carr
    82/113 - Morris Claiborne
    90/113 - Mike Jenkins


    73/88 - Gerald Sensabaugh
    77/88 - Danny McCray
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Folks taking in these rankings need to consider that DB's (like all defenders) are graded on all areas such as pass defense, run defense and penalties.

    Penalties seem to give a big zinger on a player's report card.
  3. Joshmil53

    Joshmil53 Well-Known Member

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    That first eagles game must of hurt Mo bad
  4. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Nice to know the Cowboys front-office saw fit to extend the 73rd ranked safety in the NFL -- Gerald Sensabaugh....
  5. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    bro, come on.

    you gave us all the disclaimer and then label sensy the 73rd best safety in the same thread, lol.

    sensy is far from great but there is also zero way he is anywhere near mccray in the rankings.

    we have a quality db group aside from the safety corp.

    i'd love to replace the guy to be sure but he wasn't anywhere near 73rd best.
  6. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Bro, I think you might be wrong. Sensabaugh played a ton more than Mccray yet only managed the following:

    0 Interceptions
    0 Sacks
    0 Fumble Recoveries
    3 Passes Defensed

    Has there ever been a worse state line for a NFL starting safety in NFL history? You'd be hard pressed to find one.

    3 Passes Defensed!!! Say it again. 3 Passes Defensed!!! Now say it louder -- 3 Passes Defensed!!!

    How is that even possible?

    I'm surprised, frankly, that Sensabaugh isn't dead last.
  7. wick

    wick Active Member

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    In fairness, he did make a tackle that one time.
  8. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    What they need to consider is that we played a ton of zone and PFF assigns a completion solely on the basis of who is closest. It's garbage and lacks insight compared to say their pass protection numbers.

    PFF coverage stats are worse than their grades.
  9. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    LOL at peopple STILL defending Sensabaugh. For the life of me, I cannot understand how that oaf has built up so much goodwill with our front office.

    Watch 5 minutes of the Seahawks/49ers safeties and you'll realize instantly what has been missing on the Dallas D for so long.
  10. hra8700

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    PFF defensive back grades are definitely the most useless part of the site.
  11. sureletsrace

    sureletsrace Official CZ Homer

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    Pro-bowl safeties with a hellacious pass rush to boot?

    Yeah. 25 or more NFL teams could say that's what they've been missing.
  12. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    As long as Sensy can man cover TEs the way he does, he'll have a job in the league.
  13. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Not a safety on the roster worth a darn and I doubt they address it early in the draft.
  14. kirkjrk

    kirkjrk Active Member

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    Mo hurts himself, can't cover or tackle. It's said often that Dallas fans and coaches over value many of their players, well Mo is a perfect example of that. Based on his play this year, if that continues, then he is trending toward a bust.
  15. myslamsareolder

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    fatboygixxer Active Member

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  17. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Scandrick being ranked the highest tells me that these rankings are not worth much. Not sure what criteria they use, but it seems like being on the field less works to Scandrick's advantage.
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    And that's saying something...
  19. jterrell

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    That has a considerable amount to do with the fact they aren't throwing to his area very often.
  20. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Your rationale for why Sensabaugh had 0 Interceptions, 0 Sacks, 0 Fumble Recoveries, and only 3 Passes Defensed is that they don't throw to his area very often?

    Ok. So based on what I keep hearing here on CZ the corners aren't the reason for the opposing 97 QB rating. According to you they aren't going after Sensabaugh. Is the entire poor performance of the Cowboys secondary in 2012 entirely attributable to McCray?

    It sounds like the same reasoning I've heard in past years that all the woes of the secondary were due to Alan Ball.

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