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PFT: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Posted by Mike Florio on January 28, 2010 8:48 AM ET

    During their march through the playoffs, the New Orleans Saints have battered and bruised (and nearly broken) two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks -- Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings.

    They're now setting their sights on a third man whose oversized forehead eventually will be memorialized in bronze.

    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams recently told a Nashville radio station that the Saints plan to rattle Colts quarterback Peyton Manning by hitting him whenever they can, and that the goal is to knock him out of the game.

    "This guy's got a great clock in his head," Williams told 104.5 The Zone, via ESPN.com. "The big thing is that he throws the ball so early that we're going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him and when we do get to him we're going to have to make sure he gets a couple 'remember me' shots when we get there."

    The Saints applied several "remember me" shots to Favre on Sunday, prompting many a Vikings fan to utter a phrase that for broadcast television purposes would be edited to sound like "forget you." One such hit to Favre's legs didn't draw a flag, even though NFL V.P. of officiating Mike Pereira admitted last night that a roughing the passer penalty should have been called.

    And Williams won't be reeling in his troops for the Super Bowl. Instead, it sounds like he's willing to risk a few 15-yard walk-offs if it means that Manning eventually will be carted off the field.

    "When you put too much of that type of worry on a warrior's mind, he doesn't play all out," Williams said. "If it happens, it happens. And the only thing you'd like for me to say is that if it happens you hope he doesn't get back up and play again."

    You hope he doesn't get back up and play again. (We wonder what Archie thinks about his former team's objectives?)

    In other words, "We'll gladly trade a penalty or two if it means that we get to see Curtis Painter instead of Peyton Manning."

    In other words, the NFL should consider fining not only the players when dirty hits are applied to quarterbacks, but also their coaches.


    Some think Saints should consider two game plans

    Posted by Mike Florio on January 28, 2010 7:01 AM ET

    A league source tells us that the Senior Bowl has been buzzing about the manner in which Colts quarterback Peyton Manning dismantled the Jets and "the guy who is supposed to have the best defensive mind in the league."

    The talk among offensive coaches at the college all-star game was that the Jets had no Plan B after Manning figured out the plan featuring coverages he supposedly had never before seen.

    So there's a theory in Mobile that the Saints should consider developing two separate game plans: One for the first half, and one of the second half. The concern, however, is that Saints players would interpret the unconventional approach as panic.

    Still, given the way Manning is playing, panic might be the appropriate response.
  2. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Of course they do ..... If we were playing them I would want Ware to rip him apart.
  3. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    That just tells me they are scared b/c they know that their sorry excuse for a championship defense won't be able to stop Peyton.

    Doesn't matter though because they won't get to him anyways, and I don't think the guy has EVER been hurt.
  4. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I would want to plant a seed in the minds of the refs which Williams seems to be doing.
  5. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I agree.

    It is fine to want to eliminate Manning from the game. If they do, they win as the Colts are nothing without him.

    It is not all that intelligent to call attention to it. Had they done this prior to the Vikings game we would have seen a lot more flags thrown on them the way they were hitting Brett Favre. That was the first game I saw Favre in all year where it appeared there was a concerted effort to knock him silly.
  6. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Very good point.
  7. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    The Jets also had no offense to speak of to compete with the Colts once Ryan threw out everything he had. defensively Early in that game, they had Manning confused and the Colts were struggling. When he figured it out, the Jets could not sustain drives to keep the game close.

    I do not think the Colts have the defense to stop the Saints either. It might just come down to who has the ball last.
  8. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I agree. The Colts defense has looked good the last couple of weeks because they have faced anemic offenses in the Ravens and Jets. Both of those teams had two young QBs at the helm. Brees is no Flacco(who was not 100% due to a hip injury) or Sanchez.
  9. Doomsday101

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    I agree. I think there were some close calls on hits that they made on Brett that were not called but had Williams made that statement before the Vikes game I think the benifet of the doubt would have gone out the window. I think may have just thrown that benifet out the widow for the SB
  10. Doomsday101

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    True but the Colts still have made the critical play on defense through out the season. Watching Indy you never walk away impressed by the defense as some dominate unit but when they have needed the play on defense they have found a way of making it. Frankly as an entire team based on what I have seen with Indy they have been a team who when they needed to make a play offense or defense they find a way to make them
  11. DaBoys4Life

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    So basically the saints are coming to play football ?
  12. ThreeSportStar80

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    You don't play the game of football to injure people... It just one of those things that come along with the sport.
  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    No.....you play to win the game.

    :D
  14. DaBoys4Life

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    I don't mean taking cheap shots. However, If you're playing football and you're not trying to dismantle the dude then you're doing it wrong. Some of the things my coaches told me to do albeit to move it me and fire me up still man it's football it's a man sport. Don't want to get hurt play golf. Did you dislike brookings speech ?
  15. Doomsday101

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    I agree however Williams comments were a bit more than that. Actions though speak louder than words but not a great ideal to say we are willing to take 15 yard penalties to hit manning and knock him out of the game.
  16. Rampage

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    well they were successful in doing just that against the last 2 qbs they've faced. than again unlike those last 2 qbs Manning isn't a senior citizen.
  17. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think Williams attacking and hitting Brett even if they did not sack him was exactly what I would have done however I would not go telling the media we are willing to take the penalties to knock manning out. I would rather not see close calls on roughing the passer be called on me because of some statement that will cost you the benifet of the doubt from refs.
  18. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Its not like they are not bending over backwards to protect the QB as it is.
  19. Big Country

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    That's what I was thinking. Way to fire up the Colts O-Line for the most important game of the season
  20. Rampage

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    yeah it's pretty stupid saying those things especially about Peyton. The NFL loves them 2 qbs one is named Tom Brady and the other is named Peyton Manning. so I expect the flags to be flying in the Colts favor in the Superbowl.

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