Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by LatinMind, Jan 6, 2013.
Perhaps the best answer I have read here in a long while of someone supporting their position.
Seen the schedule?
Yep about the same as this year. 8-8 sounds about right
If Garret is here next year and has a slow start, Jerry is going to fire I'm during the season, especially if the offense is showing the same pattern. A one and three season would end his tenure.
What I'm afraid of is that Holmgren would demand too much control and there might be too much jones at the upper levels with Stephen and Jerry also in the building.
But what Jones needs to do is to get somebody back in the building who has GM ability to help get this franchise ready for Stephen Jones to take over in the next 3-5 years.
Holmgren..He wrote the book on success in the NFL. He is a Lombardy-type guy.
Yes. Do it.
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Was he? I don't think many would agree with you there.. and do we really expect that he'll just take a demotion and stay with the team? Not likely.
I think Washington is our only competition that has the potential to not linger around the 7-9 - 10-6 results and even that is a bit of a stretch.
Im sure we'll have a shot at the NFC East all the way until the end.
You gave up long before the schedule came out.
Me neither. Give him credit though.
He should be only coach with SB wins with 2 different teams.
There is no guarantee that Holmgren does anything except collect a 2-3 paycheck. Then he is out...then what?
Red is future.
Consultant - I agree. GM him for 2-3 years.
How Parcells like?
Would take him in a minute. I like Garrett (not a coordinator), but we don't really know if he's ever going to have the amount of success Holmgren has had.
I'd rather turn the reins over to a proven winner than stick with Garrett just because we believe he's an up-and-coming coach.
We're talking next year.
Funny how we do that a lot around here.
But to your point. I predicted about 8-8 the last two years.
How'd that work out for you?
I'm not sure it's all that curious. Most of the criticisms with respect to dysfunction come back to areas that the Head Coach can influence, so a good head coaching candidate might be attracted to a heavily resourced, popular organization with issues because he felt that those issues would be present under his leadership. That happens quite frequently in business with CEOs.
Still, I agree with part of your point - many are critical of Jerry when the truth is that to many high caliber coaching candidates, the positives he brings to the table outweigh the negatives.
That two coaches, Johnson and Parcells, went to the well again and got an extra several million from money bags.
Stick long enough to get him wet then soak him for an extra bit of retirement money.
I do not believe either coach did that. In fact, both walked away from offers of more money.
You mean the money?
I agree with this.
In fact Jerry wanted him back in 2007 as I remember it. That's when Parcells drug his feet on his decision and we got Wade.
By the way, this should make some people happy.
I have often pointed out that Parcells was 2 games over .500 and that was not good enough. Jason Garrett is also 2 games over .500.
That still isn't good enough. I am consistent.
I wanted Parcells to Coach 6 years here. I still think if he stayed in 2007 we might have won it all.
I am going to be consistent again with Garrett. Okay, that probably pissed some people off.
It would take a 1-7 start for Jerry to do that.
What is it with all the people who want a guy who's had more success at the buffet than football for the last 7 or 8 years? He had a hard time winning with one of the best QB's in history! He's a has been from the 90's. Barry Switzer has won as many SB's.
ANd John Gruden was given a Pro Bowl filled team complete and handed to him. It took a little over a year for him to drive it into the ground.
Garrett has had to build a new Oline and deal with injuries. He deserves another year.