Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Joe Realist, Jan 12, 2013.
I think JJ knows Garrett doesn't give us any advantages as a playcaller and he has changed his mind.
Facts surew screw up pent up hate.
Agreed. I like Garrett, as a person, so it's pretty crappy to see what's going on. Kind of a dirt-bag thing for JJ to do to his coach. If you don't like him as HC, just fire him. Instead of firing everyone around him and hoping he'll quit. I think Al Davis did something similar to this a couple years ago with either Kiffin or Cable. Kept dicking around until the coach quit so he didn't have to pay him anymore. I don't remember which guy it was. It's embarrasing to the franchise.
On the other hand, I don't like Garrett the coach--so I would like it if he did quit.
There are two ways this could go.
1) Everyone's worst fears about Jerry are confirmed. He is guilty of sabotaging his team's chances of success by usurping the head coach's authority.
2) Jason stands his ground and insists on keeping his play calling duties. If he keeps his job as well, he looks stronger in the eyes of his players.
Except I don't see number 2 as a positive because I don't like Garrett's offense. So to me, it's lose/lose.
Strange things are afoot at Valley Ranch.
Good analysis !
I could definitely see this scenario becoming a problem, very quickly.
I don't care what my job is, my boss asks me to fire my brother, I quit.
Well, as bassackwards this all seems, there's also the possibility that Garrett agrees, we get a new OC and playcaller who is better at the the job than Garrett, and the offense improves.
Didn't think of that but you're right, Al did that to at least one coach before.
Next stop, watch for the PC emphasizing firing Garrett "with cause". :laugh2:
But if I had to bet, I would say that the best chance is all this is overblown. I bet Jerry doesn't really want Garrett to quit. I bet he's just unhappy with the offense (as he should be) and wants someone else to run things.
I dunno about that. If we both worked at Burger King, sure I would quit. But, if I was HC of an NFL team(making a lot of cash), I send him packing and do my best to help him find a job elsewhere with some money to get him by
Maybe I wouldn't quit, haha, I do have a family after all. But, I would definitely be pissed that's for sure.
Everybody thinks Jerry is blowing hot air or smoke.
I always supported Jerry, The only strike he has with me is the Rob Ryan thing...but Jerry does not play.
So you'd be happy if Garrett stays and keeps calling plays.
What is really entertaining to me is that all of the people were screaming for Jerry to take away Garrett's play calling and now everyone seems upset that there are unconfirmed rumors that he is trying to do just that.
What would really be funny is if they get their wish and Garrett is fired, then Jerry hires someone like Norv Turner to be head coach. What really confuses me is how so many fans say Jerry has no clue and yet they want him to fire Garrett. It's like they assume he will choose one of their candidates for head coach when, if Jerry is as lost as they would have you believe, logic would dictate he would make a bad replacement choice as well.
It's sort of like when you break up with someone thinking you'll get someone better, only to realize you were lucky to have them once you see what is available and interested in you.
People don't make a whole lot of sense when the are full of rage and agendas.
It does seem that even Jason Garrett could be on the chopping block.
I think most people that want Garrett fired are also pretty consistent that they want a proven commodity hired as a replacement with the clout to stand up to Jerry - a Gruden, Holmgren or Cowher. Someone who can wrest some control back from Jerry like Parcells did.
I think this is more relevant to the people who want Romo cut or traded - Jerry "Quincy-Hutch-Drew" Jones will be drafting his replacement, and that is not going to be pretty when it happens.
Oh geez, please don't say that.
This is what has me confused as well with the "up in arms" crowd. They are getting what they wanted all year long but when it appears that it is happening they fall on the argument that Jerry is undermining Garrett's authority.
Just like Skip Peete failed his group in the film room, I suspect that John had the same problems with his guys.
On one of the NFL Turning Point episodes there was a scene where Romo was quite upset with Witten on a failed play. Romo was yelling at him because Witten didn't see the same adjustment Romo saw. It seemed like another indicator that film studies were an issue with the TE group. I could go on a separate thread but I just wanted to point out that just because the Garrett's are brothers it doesn't absolve the fact that the offense was out of sync.