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PFT: Kiper, McShay don't seem to like each other...

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    KIPER, MCSHAY EXCHANGE PLEASANTRIES

    Posted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2009, 11:07 a.m.

    It looks like Tod McShay and Mel Kiper have become the new Sean Salisbury and John Clayton at ESPN.

    The only difference we’re detecting, however, is that while most (not all, but most) of the Salisbury-Clayton shtick was contrived, McShay and Kiper don’t seem to like each other.

    At one point during an argument regarding whether quarterback Matt Stafford should be the first overall pick to the Lions, things turned a little nasty.

    Not a lot. But a little.

    “That’s the most asinine argument you could ever have,” McShay said to Kiper at one point.

    They went one for a while — and a while — until host Josh Elliott eventually intervened.

    Here’s the reality, in our view. Kiper knows that ESPN is grooming McShay to be the next Kiper. But ESPN doesn’t want to cast Kiper into the wilderness until he has been made sufficiently irrelevant after several years of a decreased profile. That way, Kiper won’t land somewhere else and make ESPN look bad for dumping him.

    It’s sort of fascinating to us. Even though McShay refrained from calling Kiper the “Cryptkeeper.”
  2. dcfanatic

    dcfanatic Benched

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    Florio is a year late on this one.
  3. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Kiper is an icon. The only issue is that once ESPN moves on, where would he go? The NFL Network has Mayock, who I think is far superior to McShay.
  4. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Not that I've paid much attention, because I almost never watch ESPN anymore, but McShay seems to me to be wrong a lot of the time. I guess they think he looks good on TV, but it seems like he's had a lot of misses.
  5. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    He's not even really wrong. McShay just--is.

    One thing about Kiper is that he has opinions and he sticks to them, regardless if they are popular or not. He's not afraid to call out a bad pick, like he did the Trev Alberts choice.

    I can't recall one opinion McShay has ever stuck his neck out over. He seems very cautious and tends to play right in with consensus.

    That's one reason why I don't bother with McShay. There isn't even much interesting about his analyses.
  6. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

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    Mel seems to have really mellowed out in recent years.

    I'd like to see him get fired up again, and put the kid in his place.
  7. ThreeSportStar80

    ThreeSportStar80 Benched

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    Kiper sucks but McShay isn't much better... :laugh2:
  8. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    I like Kiper, he's a character. Why would they want to replace him with McShay?
  9. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    That's what the article is talking about.

    Kiper went after McShay hard during that segment.
  10. slotshot

    slotshot Member

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    Mayock (and Goose) own both of them.
  11. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    McShay's an idiot.
  12. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    McShay seems to go out of his way to argue with Kiper, apparently in an effort to promote himself and undermine Mel.

    And I don't blame Kiper if he put him in his place.

    If ESPN is looking to replace Kiper with McShay, I think they'll be taking a step backwards.
  13. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    I don't think they want to replace him. They want them to argue about the draft for 3 months out of the year.
  14. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    I have no idea who McShay is
  15. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    You're probably right.

    They probably feel their arguing would drum up more interest than one guy simply expressing his viewpoint alone.

    After all, they are the National Enquirer of Sports.
  16. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    I havent watched espn in months! Not because I think they are biased or whatever but because of stuff like this..

    Its just a station full of dummies for the most part. I dont watch the nba so there is no point in turning it on.

    Looks like I am not missing anything.
  17. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I'm sure you're right. Nobody loves a good staged argument like ESPN.
  18. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Zone Supporter

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    McShay doesn't like Kiper? Ditto.
  19. hipfake08

    hipfake08 Well-Known Member

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    1 - Buy any draft guide.
    2 - Your know more than Del Kupper.
  20. adbutcher

    adbutcher K9NME

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    Bingo.

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