Sure there are fans that are going to judge the coach and QB on their W-L record. What other way do you measure success of a professional football team? For some reason , only on this board, success is measured by anything other than a better W-L record. I have read every reason that has been made up to defend this team, but the bottom line is if it does not include more wins as a result, it is BS. This big roster turnover an the so-called talent does not mean squat if it doesn't mean more wins. This is the greatest team ever if you don't count the W-L record.