Please explain to me How the Dead Skins went from a terrible offensive line to good

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  1. Vinnie2u

    Vinnie2u Well-Known Member

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    Is it the Scheme? Coaching? Or RG3 and Alfred Morris?
    Look at their starters:Tyler Polumbus, Chris Chester, Will Montgomery, Kory Lichtensteiger, Trent Williams..... Besides Williams all these guys are castoffs from other teams.. None of them broke the bank... I'm not saying that we don't need a talent infusion.. But how much of our problems are coaching and scheme?
  2. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Read option slowed the d down. IMO.

    Made defenders tentative.

    Remember Ware and Spencer the final week?
  3. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member

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    I'll give you good at run blocking, but the presence of Griffin and their scheme makes it look better than it is.
  4. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    NFL defenses were caught off guard by the read option last year, which allowed the redskins to run the ball for big gains far more than they would have in a traditional offense. This allowed them to be a great play action passing team, but rarely did they get big plays when the QB just sropped back and passed or by lining up and running the ball.
  5. Picksix

    Picksix A Work in Progress

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    Gotta believe a lot of it is scheme, and having RGIII. His running/throwing ability is rare, and it makes the defense have to play less aggressively. Helps the OL.
  6. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Village Idiot

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    Scheme. Shanny has a pretty good track record with ZBS.
  7. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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  8. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Coaching...and the style of how they want to beat the Cowboys.

  9. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    They actually put together some pedigree on their line.

    They also entirely retooled their offensive line with Shanahan.

    He became the head coach in 2010, and they have no starters from the 2009 offensive line currently on their roster.

    2010 - They used the 4th overall pick to get Trent Williams, LT. Shanahan also brought in his former player Kory Lichtensteiger from the Broncos to play left guard. He was a 4th rounder.

    In 2011 - they also supplemented their starting line with a new veteran, and a player that they had developed.

    In 2012, oft injured Jamaal Brown was replaced.

    So similarly to what we did, except they didn't go looking for garbage. i.e. livings and bernardeau.

    It isn't hard to fix our offensive line. We just have to commit to it.

    Force Free to take a pay cut or release him June 1st.

    Sign Eric Winston. Huge upgrade over Free.

    Sign Brandon Moore. Cheap player who knows the system.

    Draft Warmack or Cooper. Best guards in the draft.

    Draft a center in the 3rd or 4th round. Try to get one of the best centers in the draft. Should be a step up from what we have even in the 3rd or 4th rounds.

    And there you have a legitimate offensive line.

    Smith - Warmack/Cooper - Frederick - Moore - Winston
  10. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Shanny has a track record of building very good lines. While Trent Williams is the only standout talent, Shanny has a core group of OL who fit his scheme and have been together for a few seasons.

    The read option and RG3 help but most of the credit goes to Shanny for building his type of OL.
  11. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    scheme shanny designed a good scheme to work with what he had. I wish garrett would take notes. Instead it seems as if garret is sort of stubborn in his play calling. This is why i wish we had found and named a OC because garrett plays and play calling sucks. With the weapons we had we shouldn't have as much trouble scoring as we do.

    The longer we don't name a play caller the more I think garret calls sorry plays again this season smh.
  12. StevenOtero

    StevenOtero Well-Known Member

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    Trent Williams is Ware's Daddy.....

    Let's hope Ware slaps him around this year
  13. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    It's scheme. You can't blame the option or RG3 because Shanny did it in Denver with Jake Plummer and Kubiak does it in Houston with Schaub.

    It kinda helps to have a coach who really, really knows what he's doing.
  14. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Throwing ability :lmao2:
  15. Aven8

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  16. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    Trent has gotten away with robbery against Ware. Last year wasn't as bad, but do you remember 2011 when Williams literally tackled Ware in the backfield 2-3 times and never got whistled for it? We ended up winning the game thanks to a Spencer FF on Grossman, but goodness, Williams literally tackled Ware lol.
  17. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    there isn't a player on that team who didnt elevate his play due to RG3. Brees did same thing his first year in NO. Some players just have ability to capture spirit of a team and lead them. Once everyone buys it...they play like they enjoy it.
  18. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Yes, Shanahan knows how to set up his zone blocking scheme to make the running game effective, no matter the back. And if you have an effective running game, then it helps the linemen out in pass protection because the defense has to respect the run.

    It's definitely been his MO.
  19. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    And yet Brees wasn't able to do that in San Diego?
  20. Redball Express

    Redball Express All Aboard!!!

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    we have for the last 5 years gotten by with inferior OL..Romo early in his career was very good at moving around and spreading the defense with his rolling out and scrambles.

    It made the OL look alot better than it was. Now that Romo has been beat up the last 3 seasons, he's not nearly as elusive and it's gotten more and more difficult to protect him. Cutting 4 5ths of the OL in the last 2 seasons hasn't helped, either.

    Not being able to keep our RBs healthy either has made the playcalling one-dimensionable..too.

    :starspin RedBaLL ExPreSS:starspin

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