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poor misunderstood gitmo detainees

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by iceberg, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    (CNN) -- Five Guantanamo prisoners accused in the September 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S. staunchly defended their actions, calling the operation "blessed" and "great" and the accusations against them "badges of honor."
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    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is shown in a courtroom sketch at Guantanamo Bay in January.

    "You are the last nation that has the right to speak about civilians and killing civilians," the five said in a response this month to the U.S. government's war crimes charges.

    "You are professional criminals, with all the meaning the words carry," the response said. "Therefore, we will treat you the same. We will attack you, just like you have attacked us, and whomever initiated the attacks is the guilty party."

    The six-page response from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who plotted the attacks, and four others castigates the actions of the United States and its allies in the Middle East and calls the United States "the terrorist country number one in the world."

    The military commission set up to hear the men's cases at the Guantanamo Bay inmate facility received the signed document Thursday, and a military judge ordered its release on Monday.

    The five are members of the al Qaeda terror network. Mohammed, who has taken credit for planning the attack, and the four other prisoners call themselves members of the 9/11 Shura Council.

    "With regards to these nine accusations that you are putting us on trial for; to us, they are not accusations. To us they are badges of honor, which we carry with pride. Many thanks to God, for his kind gesture, and choosing us to perform the act of Jihad for his cause and to defend Islam and Muslims," the response stated.

    Reacting to the charges of "attacking civilians," "attacking civilian objects" and "deliberately causing grave bodily harm," the five asked who really pursued such actions. "Is it us, or is it you?"

    It ties the United States to attacks in "Palestine and Lebanon by providing political, military, and economic support to the terrorist state of Israel, which in turn, is attacking unarmed innocent civilians." It also noted American actions in Iraq and the dropping of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

    As for "crimes in violation of the law of war," it cites Israeli occupation of Palestinian and Lebanese land and the displacement of Palestinians, the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and the mistreatment of prisoners at places such as the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

    Answering another accusation, hijacking and/or endangering a vessel or an aircraft, the five said, "if you do not respect the innocent in our countries, then we will do the same, by exposing you to danger and hijacking in the air, at sea and at land."

    Quranic verses were cited in the filing, and the men underscored their defense of "oppressed" Muslims.

    "Our religion is a religion of fear and terror to the enemies of God: the Jews, Christians and pagans. With God's willing, we are terrorists to the bone."
    It also predicts that the United States "will fall, politically, militarily and economically."

    "Your end is very near and your fall will be just as the fall of the towers on the blessed 9/11 day," the court filing said.

    "We ask from God to accept our contributions to the great attack, the great attack on America, and to place our nineteen martyred brethren among the highest peak in paradise," the response said, in reference to the al Qaeda militants who hijacked the airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Center's twin towers in New York, the Pentagon in Washington, and a field in Pennsylvania.

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    why are we so worried about their "rights" again?
  2. Jon88

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    These people are far behind the rest of the world. It goes beyond Gitmo detainees. I read where a woman in prominent country in the middle east was sentenced to public lashing for ordering a man to do some aspect of her job. It's ridiculous.
  3. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Well good news most will be released, for good measure I heard Obama say, "Manson will get paroled too since he is also misunderstood."
  4. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    So while they're fully admitting to acts of war, let's give them every possible benefit of the United States Justice System.

    Geez, what ever happened to the tenets of war?
    Catapult their ***** off of the Island and forget about them until they wash up in Miami.
  5. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    cause for some reason we're far too willing to blame ourselves for the bad things people do. the overly PC set the tone we can't offend anyone. or that it was bad to imply someone was a loser.

    even if they were.

    we got messed up in the head somewhere along the way and need like some CPR or electro shock therapy.
  6. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    I blame it on the humanist movement and the thought that "man" by nature is good. If you really want to see man's true nature turn out the lights, turn off the cable, stop running water, you will see what happens. Oh wait that happened already New Orleans after Katrina.
  7. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    Incessant badgering of whiners have gotten the better of a complacent country and has castrated it into a mold of asexual limp ***** (male member's for the editing crowd).

    Back in the day a brute like you wouldn't say please...
    Go hit them with an axe, ya big viking and we get back to living like good Christians.
  8. SuspectCorner

    SuspectCorner Bromo

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    We are a country of laws. Present charges against, and try, those that can be convicted of crimes - release those that cannot.

    Each time we do anything else we allow the terrorist element a "win".
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Once again suspect hides his head in the sand and hopes for peace and flowers.

    Not all JUSTICE comes from a "court " of so called "laws"

    That is something YOU will never understand.
  10. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    every time we allow our own insecurities and delusions of grandure to make us think they give a damn how honorable we are, they win.

    we need to stop punishing ourselves for being ourselves.
  11. JBond

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    My idea for the Gitmo trash is when Obama closes the place we put all of them on a boat and the boat has a tragic accident and sinks in the Bermuda triangle. Problem solved.
  12. Jon88

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    I would fly an unmanned plane full of explosives into it. See how they like that.
  13. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    Then everyone would get a free pass in gitm since most evidence is circumstantial at best. In the war on terrorism the nice guy always finish last. And please none of the, "if you believe that the terrorist wins garbage." The terrorists win when we release them and they can make another run at us, sometimes their is a time when crossing over to the dark side is justified, too many people in this country got gun shy after WWII the reasons why we lost vietnam and why we are just staying even in the fight on terrorism.
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Man up and be in the plane.

    Geez you wimp. :p: ;)
  15. Jon88

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    I don't believe in the 72 virgins thing. I think it's just a rumor.
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Well even if you believed the rumor...once you have been married long enough you learn that getting those 72 woman would be hell...not heaven. :laugh2:
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention how many of the virgins are 90 years old.....
  18. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    it is impossible how many women actually die virgins, and once used in heaven cross 72 available ones off the list for the next guy. Think of social security after the baby boomers retire.
  19. MetalHead

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    Kill all of them.
    End of story.

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