Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by GloryDaysRBack, Jan 17, 2012.
Any chance this kid drops? What's the 411 on him?
Great talent backed up by lack of effort .
His lack of production after the mass exodus of UNC defensive players into the draft last year kinda scares me. Was he just a product of the other great players around him?
I watched every game tape on Bruce Carter i could from last year and all i kept telling my friend whos house i was at was that Coples was going top 10 GUARANTEED. then this season came around and maybe it starter before that but i guess the kid just lacks the drive or motivation to give 100% every play. If you can do this you have a monster. a MONSTER.
I'd stay away. Desire is something you can't teach. And listlessness tends to be contagious.
Not a Garrett RKG.
I think Garrett would be more likely to pick a player that has off-field trouble than one that has motivation problems.
could be as dominant an end as there has been in years.
Size, ability, speed, explosiveness BUT took plays off this year.
Dominant junior year, numbers fell off this year but still had a very good year, after moving inside to DT.
I'd look long and hard at him at 14. Ability wise he's head and shoulders better than JJWatt last year. watt just has the desire. If this kid can get that he's an all pro.
Many people have speculated he was playing to avoid injury this year.
That is one problem with the college system for these guys who are first round locks. If they get injured they may get nothing instead of $10-15 million dollars. I also suspect most of them can't afford the sort of insurance policy that would be required to cover them.
If he played with great effort and desire last year than it probably is in him.
This would have to get sorted out during interviews. If he tests well we should consider signing him if he drops to us because he is a top 5 talent at a major position of need. We need a penetrating DL and complementary pass rusher to take this defense to the next level.
2010 (DT): 10 sacks, 15.5 TFLs.
2011 (DE): 7.5 sacks, 15 TFLs.
Not much of a drop off in the stats.
I know stats don't tell the whole story, but that's good consistency despite changing positions, IMO.
Lots of players do.
Quinton Coples watched teammate Bruce Carter lose millions with a November ACL and Deunta Williams' career ended with a freak ankle injury in the Music City Bowl in 2010.
Williams suffered nerve damage when his foot turned from 12:00 to 7:00 and has been granted disability, he's now focusing on starting a career in radio.
The last play in Williams final college game turned out to be the end of his career.
How couldn't that have an impact on Coples and the rest of the team?
The hot/cold motor worry never came up prior to 2011 as far as I'm aware.
Coples wouldn't have been so highly rated entering his senior season if it had, IMO.
Butch Davis is just a phone call away, the front office can trust for an honest opinion of any of the current Tar Heels.
If Coples is green lighted, I expect him to be on the team's short list of targets at #14 going into the draft.
If the passion and desire are there, it's like Wes Bunting said, Coples can be as good as he wants to be in the NFL.
this....watt motor runs on high while coples seem to be in cruise control. Even while saying that. He didn't have a bad year. But it was just a bad year for a player with his ability.
UNC alum, lack of effort was not a problem that's bull he played end again for the sake of the team, and he was doubled and chipped a whole lot. Teams ran away from him on top of this, Great talent and young man
this team has enough players on cruise control already
lets get some self starters
That is my concern . What will he do in a contract year ? Play to his potential or play it safe to may sure he is healthy for another payday ? It makes you wonder .
I would not draft him in the 1st.
Once lazy, always lazy. We need beasts on this team, not sissies.
I don't think we should take him based on his bad decisions. Case in point, the Omegas burnt into his arms.
Inconsistent motor/effort is what I've read. Never seen him play though. So, take it for what it's worth.
I agree. The guy averaged 8.5 sacks the last 2 seasons while supposedly not giving full effort??? I was a big Watt fan last draft but Coples is a better athlete. Coples reminds me of Justin Tuck, in that he is a DE who can also make plays at DT. He is so strong, explosive and long, he simply makes plays the closer he is to the QB. And he runs a 4.6 at almost 290 lbs.
Rare talent. I hope he drops and Cowboys are able to trade down for another 2nd or 3rd and still be able to take him. The perceived flaws allow Jerry to get great value. Jerry just has to stop being so gunshy about players with minor off field issues. Trust Butch.
What's wrong with that?
I doubt he even drops to 14, but if he does I wouldn't risk trading down to get him.
Sky is the limit for this kid but there are question marks. One thing is for sure thou, our staff will know everything there is to know about him. Jerry will call Butch and I believe that Butch would give Jerry the straight up on what the real story is.