Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Boys122, Jan 30, 2013.
I would too.
However, Rice beats him if the discussion is best overall for their career...imo.
I was about to make a similar point. Rice was great after the catch and ctaching over the middle. Moss is known primarily as a deep-threat who stretches the field.
I'll tell you what though. I loved it when Kevin Smith got in Jerry Rice's head. He use to lock him down and if it weren't for the fact that they moved Rice all over the place, where guys like Brown would cover him... I think Kevin Smith would have gone down as one of the greatest CBs to ever play the game if not for that achilles tear. I also remember him being targetted by the refs after he came back from injury for plenty of BS PI calls.
Receptions - 9th
YPC - 15.6 (Rice 14.8)
Yards - 3rd
TDs - 2nd
YPG - 16th (5 yards behind Rice)
I would say that qualifies him as one of the best ever, and he did it without every playing with a HoF QB
The only argument, I think, for someone like Rice over Moss, is statistics. But those are largely inflated b/c of the system he played in and the QBs he played with. Talent wise, the best WR ever is Moss, and I don't think it's even close. If you say it's Rice, you almost have to say that Emmitt and Favre are also the best.
Edit: for the majority of his career :laugh2:
I didn't say a word.:laugh2: :starspin
Haha, yea but a good snicker like that can go a long way...
Skip Bayless said Michael Irvin the greatest followed by Moss and then Rice. Yesterday on First Take. Saw it yesterday on
He has said this before. In one game, it's hard to argue with him.
I will take Irvin over Moss. I think he has a greater impact on the players around him. He plays with passion.
You got Moss'd
Sorry but Jerry or anyone else was not as dynamic to receive a saying like this.
Moss is the best WR imo
I take it you didn't see much of Jerry's career.
Randy Moss was a greater talent. Like Michael Jordan, Jerry Rice wasn't the most physically gifted, but his work ethic made him the best. Randy Moss doesn't sniff Jerry's jock strap.
Randy certainly had more physical tools. His top end speed is still very good and his size and leaping ability were excellent as well.
But, Randy didnt have the heart that Rice had and that's what separates the very best from the rest.
No, he doesn't. He was far easier to contain than Rice, who turned a 3 yard pass into 20 better than anyone I've ever seen. In big games, top teams are going to contain a guy like Moss who feasts on deep plays. Look at Rice's super bowl numbers. If anyone thinks the 2007 Giants lackluster secondary would have held Rice to 60 yards, they're high. Even under the old rules and even at the age of 30, he would have turned dink and dunk crap into 20 yard gains all night against that team. Punk Randy didn't even break 100 yards in that *entire* post-season with Tom Brady. The only post-season where Moss put up really huge numbers was the year they beat Dallas. Putting him in the same sentence with Rice under any circumstances is a friggin joke. And Rice made his quarterbacks a lot more than they made him. .
Apparently they don't drug test in the NFL anymore...
I have no problem with him saying it or believing it. That's how a player should feel, especially one that is really great.
I personally don't believe he's even close to correct. I get that people want to give him the best of all time because of abilities or what not but I go by everything involved in it.
To me there simply isn't even a debate as to who the best was and it was Jerry Rice by a large margin.
I agree Rice is probably the best. But T.O., if not for his attitude, could be mentioned in the conversation.
Irvin definitely deserves mention.