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RE: the hit...( this should clear everything up )

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by KINGBRICE_28, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    http://jaybauer24.tripod.com/cowboysvids/Newhit.mpg

    The crown of the helmet DOES indeed make contact with coles' facemask. As Blade said @ extreme they teach you not to do that in pee-wee's. I'd say though this was barely the correct call it may serve as a warning to him for future hits. He's still a killer though so I doubt he'll stop.....

    Now can everyone stop this? ( Both sides ) :cool:

    EDIT: there is a "extra slow mo. " segment in this highlight too.
  2. The30YardSlant

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    Laverneous Coles? B**** deserved it :D
  3. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    Shall I quote you when keyshawn meets Taylor? :D ......
  4. The30YardSlant

    The30YardSlant Benched

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    Keyshawn: 6'4'', 225

    Taylor: 6'1'', 230

    Taylor wont be doing much damage in that exchange. Now:

    Coles: 5'11'' 196

    Williams: 6'1'' 230

    Roy wins! Next?
  5. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    Size doesn't matter when the WR isn't looking....... :cool:
  6. The30YardSlant

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    It doesnt matter when the hitter doesnt know where he should be either... :cool:
  7. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    huh?...I don't get it
  8. The30YardSlant

    The30YardSlant Benched

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    Didnt expect you too... :cool: Sean Taylor looks lost out on the football field, he has no idea what he is doing. I thoughty he would be great but Im not so sure anymore.
  9. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    ohhh...gotcha...ok.....Yeah well.....i don't know how to respond to this. He looked great in run support since the start but under the pass the only thing he has going is his speed.....maybe the system is toocomplex for him.....that would explain the lack of playing time he's had.......
  10. Rack Bauer

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    Taylor isn't known for his hitting. In fact, considering his size, I'd say he hits like a b***h. He had a chance to lay into a Dallas RB on monday night, but he pulled away cuz he didn't want the contact (it's obvious from looking at it).

    Don't try to make Taylor out to be something he isn't. He's a ballhawk, not a hitter.
  11. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    I'm gonna have to disagree.......Sure he's quick but Before I saw his 40 times I watched a highlight reel of the hits he gives........

    Do you have any article to proof that statement because I've got articles and clips?

    EDIT: I just posted a poll @ extremeskins....maybe it's just an opinion we'll see.......
  12. Rack Bauer

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    I didn't say he's never hit anyone. He's 230 lbs, he should hit someone every now and then, but his mentality isn't to go out knocking the hell out of people. His style is that of a ballhawk, not a headhunter.

    But for being 230 lbs he sure gets the bad end of a lot of hits.
  13. Rack Bauer

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    Yeah that'll mean something. :rolleyes:
  14. Monte51Coleman

    Monte51Coleman Respected Opponent

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    /www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/sean_taylor


    Prospect Profiles
    Sean Taylor
    Position: Free safety
    College: Miami (Fla.)
    Height: 6-2
    Weight: 231
    Hometown: Miami, Fla.

    Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal
    OVERVIEW
    The prototype for a free safety, blessed with the quickness of a cover cornerback and the size of a strong-side linebacker … Has a rare combination of size, speed, strength and agility … Taylor is a brutally hard hitter who also displays excellent skills as a coverage man and in run support … A standout in the tradition of former UM safeties Edward Reed and Bennie Blades … In 34 games, he recorded 188 tackles (130 solos) with a 4-yard sack, seven stops for losses of 21 yards and two pressures … Also blocked two kicks … Intercepted 14 passes for 306 yards in returns (21.9 avg.) and three touchdowns … His 14 pass thefts rank fourth on the school's career list, behind Fred Marion (16, 1978-81), Bennie Blades (19, 1984-87) and Ed Reed (21, 1999-2001) … Only Reed (389) gained more yards on interception returns in school history … Added eight punt returns for 154 yards (19.3 avg.) and a score, 86 yards on three kickoff returns (28.7 avg.) and also scored on a 47-yard reception.

    ST hasn't got it all figured out yet but he is already as good, if not better than, RW in coverage. If you think he can't hit you haven't been paying attention.
  15. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    hmmm....i never bothered to read his profile interesting.....
  16. Rack Bauer

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    Hey, I read a scouting report that said Stewart Schweigert was just as good as Sean Taylor, wanna read that useless scouting report too? :rolleyes:
  17. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    I think we're off topic
    :D .....ehh...I lost interest nobody wanted to debate that one for over an hour.......And no I don't even know who that guy is but who ever wrote that report is an idiot.....lol...
  18. Monte51Coleman

    Monte51Coleman Respected Opponent

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    It's good to know that I don't have to waste anymore time watching games or reading the views of people who follow these things for a living like the folks at NFL.com and John Clayton of ESPN. I can just consult with you instead.
    :rolleyes:

    Here is another. I could post about a dozen that state the same information but I won't. A simple Google search can confirm.

    sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1742045

    ESPN.com: NFL

    Monday, February 23, 2004
    Taylor might be draft's best player
    By John Clayton
    ESPN.com

    INDIANAPOLIS -- An argument can be made that the best player in April's draft won't go first.

    Sean Taylor of Miami is the ultimate playmaker. He makes crunching tackles in the mold of Roy Williams of the Dallas Cowboys and he snares interceptions with the ease of Ed Reed of the Baltimore Ravens.


    Sean Taylor is expected to be a top 10 selection in the upcoming draft.
    "I think I'm both combined in one," Taylor said. "I can hit. I can cover. I can run. I think you're getting everything in one, almost."

    There's only one problem. Taylor is a safety, playing 10 to 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage. If defensive linemen are the first line of defense, safeties are the last line. They play so far off the ball that many teams devalue them. Thirty-year-old veterans making more than $3 million are usually run off. Last year, some teams were taking rookie cornerbacks and plugging them into the safety position as starters just for speed.

    "Traditionally, you can get safeties that can play pretty good for you -- even go to the Pro Bowl -- in the later rounds," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said. "So if there's a choice, you can move the safety off a little bit farther. The other thing is when you scout, safeties a lot of times are off the tape and may have five plays in a whole game."

    But here's the debate floating around the Indianapolis combine: What if that safety could be the next Ronnie Lott, a Hall-of-Fame player? Can a safety go No. 1? Probably not in a draft that features quarterbacks Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger, athletic left tackle Robert Gallery and top receivers such as Larry Fitzgerald, Roy and Reggie Williams and maybe even Mike Williams of USC.

    But Taylor could be the next Ronnie Lott.

    "I don't know, Ronnie Lott did a lot of great things," Taylor said. "That's a big name. I don't know. Wow."

    But, Taylor is the one making a lot of NFL people say wow. He measured out at 6-2, 230 pounds for the scouts. But he's got enough range and speed to make plays against the pass and turn interceptions into big plays.

    "Sean Taylor is a playmaker," Cardinals coach Dennis Green said. "There are guys that are playmakers at their position. Anquan Boldin is a playmaker at his position. Larry Fitzgerald is a playmaker at his position. Sean Taylor is a playmaker at safety. He can get up and down the field, and he'll make interceptions at a key time. He's a good hitter. Roy Williams is tremendous in the NFL and he is that kind of player. You're talking about that kind of player except he is faster. He is faster and he will probably make more plays with the ball.

    "Roy makes a lot of plays in a lot of different areas and he is a heavier hitter, but I think Sean is a ballhawk. He's a guy who can have eight, nine, ten interceptions in his first year in the league. He has that kind of ability."

    Taylor terrorized the college scene. Florida State coach Bobby Bowden was awed by his skills. "He hits as hard as he covers," Bowden said. He enters the NFL with as much buzz as Lott, Ken Easley and Dennis Smith did in the early 1980s. But as great as those three were, none went higher that No. 4 in the draft. Easley went fourth in the 1981 draft, Lott went eight and Smith went 15th to Denver.
  19. peacockaja

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    It dosent matter what he did in collage its what he does in the pros.
  20. KINGBRICE_28

    KINGBRICE_28 New Member

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    ok,ok...give the guy more than 3 games as a backup to reach full potential.....I see your point but R.W. hasn't even played to the best he can be yet......Give the youngin's time....... :cool:

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