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Right tackle scares me

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TXCowboyVol, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Ken

    Ken Well-Known Member

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    I feel pretty good about Parnell after seeing the Hard Knocks clip of him destroying the Bengals 6'8" 285lbs rookie. Then watching him dominate in the last preseason game like he is supposed to gives me hope that he really does have something to him.

    I like the way our offensive line is shaping up and is configured right now. I think we have a chance to see tremendous improvement in our line this year.
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  2. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    At some point you have to develop players.

    Sometimes people are livid with this organization for using stop gap measures with aging veterans. PROGRESS STOPPERS they yell.

    Then they turn around and are livid when the organization trys to develop younger players.

    Some people just want to be mad.

    This schizophrenia....I find it absolutely fascinating.
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  3. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    No team is perfect at every position.
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  4. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    After almost two Decades without sniffing a Championship Game.

    This contentment...I find absolutely incompetent.
  5. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Not so much worries about the starters. Our depth at OT concerns me.
  6. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    The statement you have to develop young players is a sign of contentment?

    Do you understand how the NFL works?
  7. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    Theres a big difference between what I am talking about and what you are talking about. Going into the season with Darrion Weems as your swing Tackle can turn out to big a gigantic mistake. You don't need to develop Weems with so much youth in your starters, you need an insurance policy/ a proven guy to step in and play incase of injury to one of your starters. You don't want to shuffle the whole line around by moving Free back to Tackle and bring in another guard when a very serviceable player like Starks is available. The drop off isn't terrible if you do that. Weems on the other hand is a big drop. He is no where near ready to see significant playing time and I don't think it's wise to try to develop a kid in a position where depth is needed right now. In some sceanrios you're right there is PROGRESS STOPPERS type signings that don't make a lot of sense this however is not one of them. But to say there is no scenario where brining in a veteran for depth is the right move is kind of ignorant. Theres plenty of cases where it's right to do that and you have to use your best judgement.
  8. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Dallas obviously doesn't understand.

    The signing of Weems may work. He's already looking as good as Parnell.
  9. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    I agree you definitely do have to develop young players, but you can't hurt your roster by keeping a guy just because he is young, he has to worth it. You should probably take into consideration how the rest of your roster pans out and see what kind of future potential that certain player has. For example in the Weems situation is he capable of being a starter this year or next year? no, he's not. Then you got to consider is he a good option as a back up this year or next year, that answer is also probably not because he is at least a 3 year project. Then you have to consider is he worth rolling the dice on for the next 3 years too see if he even develops into a quality player while sacrificing getting a capable back up right now? My answer to that is also no, maybe you see something in Weems that I don't but in my opinion he is not worth keeping on the 53 man roster. Develop him on the PS and if he can't get their oh well. Dallas has a good team this year and is ready to contend right now but if there a situation where your 3rd Tackle has to be on the field and it's Darrion Weems you can kiss those chances goodbye, so is Weems upside high enough to risk that?
  10. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    he is?? Parnell is a good right tackle, where did you see Weems look as good as him?
  11. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    They don't understand how to develop young talent? I couldn't disagree with you more. Dallas has done a good job of developing their young players, they have a bunch of UDFAs on the roster that came along nicely, along with a bunch of late round draft picks that have grown into nice rotation players.
  12. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    I don't buy the Free at RG thing. Free will have a nice year at RT. Everything I read up till last week says he was having a good camp as RT. Stop before you swallow the hook.
  13. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    You keep Weems on as the swing tackle and you develop him. The only time he would start would be in an emergency game situation. The following week you can bring in a street vet or trade for someone's depth (assuming he isn't ready). Not ideal but not the end of the world either.

    They clearly didn't put Weems on the waiver as they feared someone would grab him or they think he is ready to take on swing tackle duties.

    The team is in a better position to know that than you or me.

    When you start saying things like the kid will need 3 years to develop...you're just creating your own narrative.
  14. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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  15. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    I've seen Weems play enough to know he could be a serviceable guy in time because he's big and athletic, I payed close attention to him the whole preseason. I also watched both his pre season games from 2012 for the Patriots. Has potential but lacks the strength needed to play right now. He's a better pass blocker than he is a run blocker so needs to improve that. His footwork is pretty good but also could use improvement. I also know since last year he was cut by Patriots,Colts,Vikings,Broncos which tells me he isn't that close to be a guy you want on the field in the immediate future. Thats why i said a 3 year project which you're right was me adding my own narrative but I think it's a fair assumption that he will not fix these weakness in 1 years time otherwise 1 of those 4 teams that cut him would have kept him, OT is not a position you just give away when you think you have something there. But possibly next year he can be a serviceable back up and we don't have to see him on the field this year to give him time to develop properly. My point was just I hate to have a guy who is already a starter being the back up of another position. Meaning if a tackle gets hurt Free slides over and Berny comes in now you have 2 guys at new positions opposed to 1. They are doing the same thing at MLB if Lee goes down Carter will have to go there, I'm not a fan of that strategy but it doesn't mean it can't work. Hopefully it works out because I think this team can contend, I really do
  16. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    didn't we have him a couple years ago?
  17. dmq

    dmq If I'm so pretty, why am I available?

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    I'll take the situation we have on the OL this year over what we had last year. That includes RT.
  18. mmohican29

    mmohican29 Well-Known Member

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    We sure did. Literally single handedly cost us a season opener @ Washington. He is the worst player I've ever seen in the NFL in a Cowboys uniform. Other than Phil Pozderac.
  19. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    how the heck is he even still getting into teams training camps 3 years later... I think we traded Bobby Carpenter for him if i remember correctly in a 1st round bust swap with the rams???
  20. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Parnell couldn't beat out Free last year. Free was probably one of the worst 3 right tackles in the league. So bad, he took a giant pay cut. He isn't good, don't fool yourself.

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