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Romo Stats Not Stans

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Staubacher, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    Hey, these guys were YOUR examples of how great players always play their best in the biggest games. Flacco is an example of a non-great player who does that. Peyton is an example of a great player whose record in that area is decidedly mixed. You're not doing your premise any favors with these examples.
  2. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    No, but some are saying Brady and Manning wouldn't do good on the Cowboys. Like this post below.. which is ludicrous. lol @ us needing an "Explosive" QB like Romo or Rodgers.. or we wouldn't succeed.


    "Agreed. The Cowboys have needed explosive QB play to succeed the past few years. Brady or Manning would have been destroyed on this team. Rogers is the only QB I can think of that may have been able to make the team competetive other than Romo. I'm am not saying that Romo is better overall than Brady or Manning."
  3. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's just silly. Romo's a tier below those guys, and Rodgers, and doesn't have special magic powers that they don't. That said, he's in the very next tier.
  4. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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  5. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    What you don't seem to realize because all you see is the bad with Romo is that his ability to slip defenders and spin his way out of trouble makes the Cowboys OL look better. You said you would take Flacco over Romo but Flacco has never been sacked fewer than 32 times in a season and he's had some excellent OL's. He would have looked like a crash dummy behind the Cowboys OL last season with the issues they had up front and the team ranking 31st in rushing. Even Flacco's own team had doubts about him entering last season which is why they allowed him to play out his contract. Had he not had the amazing postseason he did leading the Ravens to a championship he might have ended up a free agent. As for Alex Smith who you would also take over Romo he's never passed for more than 3144 yards in a season. He's been in the league since 05 and only once has he ever reached 3000 passing yards and he's never passed for more than 18 TD's in a season. His career passer rating is 79.7 and his career completion percentage is under 60%.

    It took Smith 7 years to get the 49ers to the playoffs and he's won the same number of playoff games as Romo ONE. He's played in a grand total of 2 playoff games and this is his 9th season. He's improved as a QB but is still a game manager. If he was anything special he would still be in SF. He may not lose you many games because he doesn't turn the ball over a lot but he won't win you many games because he's not a productive passer who makes a lot of plays. He's not asked to win games he's asked not to lose them and you want that kind of QB? In the playoffs it comes down to QB's having to make plays to win games and Alex Smith is not that guy which is why SF stayed with Kaepernick and traded him. Smith would be another bad fit for the Cowboys a QB has to do a lot for them to win games.

    Romo's career attempts, yards and TD's are proof that Smith would never get it done with the Cowboys The Cowboys aren't built to win many games with unproductive game manager at QB. Yes Romo has issues with turnovers and not coming up big when it matters most but he's still a lot better QB than Alex Smith which is why when Smith was being dumped in March for a 2nd round pick Romo was signing $108 million deal with his original team. SF spent years trying to find someone to replace Smith and when they did he was gone. All you're doing is living in the moment with Smith being 3-0 in KC. We'll see how far they get with him producing moderate numbers all season and being asked not lose games.
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  6. 187beatdown

    187beatdown Lack of Big Plays

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    Does Alex Smith even throw the ball more than 20 yards down the field?
  7. Smith22

    Smith22 Well-Known Member

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    His career stats would suggest that he does not. They would also suggest he really isn't proficient at throwing TD passes.

    Mr. UFC will only tell you that stats don't tell the whole story....
  8. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    You quote a post I make and then don't even address my quote at all. Instead you talk about players that aren't even in the quote? Now you know why I put you on ignore before. When the new site was rolled out it took all the people I had on ignore off. Time to put you right back on.
  9. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    That is correct. Stats certainly don't tell you the whole story in almost anything in life.
  10. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he is just right there.. so close to those guys. :rolleyes:
  11. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Not yet, but he's getting better.:rolleyes:
  12. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    LATEST NEWS

    "Alex Smith completed 22-of-35 passes for 273 yards in Kansas City's 26-16 Week 3 win over the Eagles, adding 10 rushes for 33 yards.
    Smith threw for no touchdowns or interceptions, in large part because he appeared leery of making any throw at all. Smith attempted only a handful of passes beyond the sticks, and counted on Donnie Avery and Jamaal Charles doing work after the catch to rack up "his" yardage. It was a comically conservative performance, but Smith achieved his desired goal: No turnovers in a game where the Eagles coughed the ball up five times. Smith's play hasn't been easy on the eyes this season, but he's helped guide the Chiefs to a 3-0 record in the safest possible fashion. As weak-armed as ever and allergic to risk, Smith is a low-end QB2 for fantasy purposes. Sep 19 - 11:44 PM"

    LOL
  13. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    Nice write up. I hope Smith puts up the same "comically conservative performance" against the Giants to further secure our grip over the rest of the NFC east. The Eagles might have won that game if they didn't turn the ball over and make a bunch of mental mistakes.
  14. Vtwin

    Vtwin Power and Performance

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    I did say on "this" team.

    A different system and different personnel is not this team anymore.

    I am not so sure we would have a different system without a different HC.
  15. Vtwin

    Vtwin Power and Performance

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    No.
  16. Vtwin

    Vtwin Power and Performance

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    As I made clear I don't put Romo over Brady or Manning overall.

    However, Romo has had to do his best Houdini impression behind his line, as well as score touchdowns off his arm or legs as the Cowboys hadn't been able to rush for a touchdown to save their lives.

    Neither Brady nor Manning have the skillset to pull that off. The scheme doesn't help them get rid of the ball quickly so their strength in that area would not be realized on the most recent incarnations of the Dallas Cowboys.

    Rogers does have those magic Houdini powers and has succeeded behind a not so good line.

    Imagine Brady dealing with the pass rush Romo dealt with and without a Welker or Gronkowski to get the ball out quickly too. Who played the slot for the Cowboys last year? The scheme has Witten 20 yard down the field as often as not.

    I don't see either Brady or Manning having much success on last years Dallas Cowboys team.
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  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I understand what you said. However, that's not a realistic comparison IMO. Our Coaching staff and our owner, were they to make an investment in players such as those, would also try to put them in a position for success. The players we have on this team now, are designed to complement Romo and his skills. Heck, even the HC might be different if you had Payton or Brady here, you never know.
  18. Vtwin

    Vtwin Power and Performance

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    You are taking my comments out of context. I was responding to comments made comparing QB's, specifically how their skills and styles would translate to the Cowboys. Nothing more nothing less.

    I see what you are saying and in the real world you are correct. In the hypothetical world of comparisons to specific situations I think my point stands.
  19. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't believe I am. I am simply stating an obvious fact. This entire thread is about comparison. You can't compare unless you consider events in broader terms. We do not live in a vacuum. This, to me, is why the best comparisons are based on wins/loses and Super Bowls. To many variables otherwise. JMO
  20. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Comparing QB's based on wis/loses and Super Bowl wins is naive and BSPN'ish. The NFL is the ultimate team sport.

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