RTN: 4 More Reasons for Vince Young to Dallas

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  1. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    By Jonathan Bales


    Last week, Nick Eatman posted an interesting article detailing five reasons the Cowboys should sign former Texas quarterback Vince Young. Bryan Broaddus followed that up with a scout’s view of the situation. So here I am to break down the potential acquisition from a statistical standpoint.

    Like Nick and Bryan, I believe signing Young would be a smart move for Dallas. He’s a high-upside player who can beat defenses a variety of ways, and he’ll come cheaply; if things don’t work out in camp, the Cowboys can cut him without any strings attached. That’s important. Take a look at four numbers I believe demonstrate Young’s fit in Dallas.

    6.8: Robert Griffin III’s YPC as a rookie *– the highest mark in the NFL by nearly a yard.

    Why would RGIII’s rushing prowess affect the Cowboys’ quarterback decisions? As Nick and Bryan pointed out, Young can give the defense a unique look in practice. With Griffin and possibly Michael Vick set to run read-option, the Cowboys need to be prepared to defend it. In RGIII’s first game against Dallas, he completed 19 of 27 passes for 304 yards and four touchdowns, and you can bet that much of that passing success was generated indirectly through Griffin’s ability to take off on the ground. Young can imitate Griffin and Vick in practice in a way that Kyle Orton simply can’t.

    6.9: Young’s net-YPA during his final two years in Tennessee.

    Young struggled with interceptions during his lone season in Philadelphia, but he was quietly really effective in 2009 and 2010 in Tennessee. Net-YPA is a stat that factors sack yards into a quarterback’s yards per attempt. Even though Young has taken too many sacks during his career, including on 7.7 percent of his passes in 2010, he’s still been very efficient as a passer.

    A year after finishing in the top 12 in net-YPA in 2009, Young checked in at sixth in 2010. He also tossed 20 touchdowns to only 10 picks during that time, a ratio superior to Tony Romo’s career mark.

    7.7: The average number of rushing touchdowns for the Cowboys since 2010.

    The Cowboys obviously need to get better near the goal line and in short-yardage situations. Running is statistically superior to passing near the goal line and on third-and-short, so it’s important for Dallas to be able to pick up those tough yards.

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  2. CowboyStar88

    CowboyStar88 Well-Known Member

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    Is it me or are these guys really trying to sell this VY to Dallas thing? or are they hearing whispers inside the organization that leads them to believe the Dallas might sign him and are trying to get fan feed back? Just seems odd that these guys keep writing articles about it.
  3. rocboy22

    rocboy22 Active Member

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    i thought the same exact thing...
  4. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    This is getting ridiculous. They are reaching for reasons to bring in Vince Young. The only questions that matters is "is he good enough?".

    Helping to provide a look in practice is a stretch in my opinion. You don't see teams go out and sign a QB that plays like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady in order to prepare for their offenses. There wasn't a rush to bring in a left handed QBs to run scout teams in the 90s when Steve Young was having good years.

    There shouldn't be such a narrow focus in why you want to bring in Vince Young. There is much more to being a solid backup QB than just the ability to run the ball or availability to run the read-option for the scout team. You have to look at the much broader view of the backup QB position and all the things that position entails. Then you determine if Young is the right match or not. I don't think he is.
  5. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think it has more to do with they got nothing else to write about with otas and mini camps over. This is going to get them a lot of hits and the qbs were reportedly pretty bad. So bad that the Cowboys did try to pick up Kafka. Even Broaddus said that he didn't see the Cowboys making the move for Young but that he would.
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    Yeah something has to be going on.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it has more to do with Orton then it does Young. I posted in another thread that the reports we are hearing about Orton are that he is short arming a lot of throws and is generally missing targets. I can understand QBs being inaccurate at the beginning of camp and overthrowing targets but not under throwing them. That, to me, suggests a problem physically with Orton. If that is correct, then you have to take a look at who is out there that you can bring in without breaking the bank and that naturally leads you to a guy like Young.

    I think it's more about Orton and less about Young. If Orton were looking good in camp, we wouldn't even hear about this business of bringing in VY IMO.
  8. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    speed you're teasing me with this threads man.
  9. DCBoysfan

    DCBoysfan Hardwork and Dedication

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    I would kick the tires and bring him, doesn't hurt to look.
  10. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    The only reason to bring him in would be to help gameplan for the likes of RGIII. Other than that, he's a terrible Qb.
  11. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    We'd have to simplify the playbook to three plays and re-write it in crayon.
  12. SDCowboy85

    SDCowboy85 Well-Known Member

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    For the love of God, NO.

    AMERICAS_FAN Active Member

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    I'll give you one HUGE reason why we DON'T need Vince Young in Dallas:

    #1 Because we need an underachieving change-of-pace QB like we need an underachieving change-of-pace RB (see Felix Jones).

    At the end of the day, a #3 QB is not going to make or break your team, and if a #3 QB is keyly contributing then your team is already broken - and no #3 QB is going to fix it at that point.

    Now can we all just :cop: ?
  14. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    This. Low risk, high reward.
  15. SDCowboy85

    SDCowboy85 Well-Known Member

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    The likely media circus alone would be an absolute nightmare.
  16. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Let's do it.

    Whip out the Pistol in Big D !!!

    Heck, we've followed every other trend that comes around. Why not this one?

    Maybe we can bring back QC to run it.
  17. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    Keep up with the QC talk and someone is going to get pistol whipped. :p: ;)
  18. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl U.N.I.T.Y Staff Member

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    VY or not. It doesn't take much to get a media circus in Dallas, ya know.
  19. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    Thats Dwez playbook ... and he still cant memorize it.
  20. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is a low risk. No, there is no potential for a high reward. He has peaked as a player and that peak is not very high.

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