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Run Outside on Oakland

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by LarryCanadian, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. LarryCanadian

    LarryCanadian Active Member

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    I hope the team tries to run a few more plays to the outside against Oakland. We've been struggling a bit up the middle, opening holes for Julius, plus we are trying to get the other young backs involved more. Sapp and Washington are a couple of big bodies that will be tough to move up the gut. While Al Johnson has engaged well, he has been pushed back quite a bit and I hope we see a bit of Gurode to get a little extra push at centre once in awhile. Well, T Thompson showed he has some nice outside speed, so lets run him wide a bit more.

    On top of that, I sure hope the CB's are instructed to jam Oaklands WR's at line. Oakland has some burners, and you know they will be trying to throw the deep ball downfield all day, testing the secondary and free safety in particular until we show we can stop it. So the key is to jam WR at line so they can't get so far down field so quick, as well as get the Dline and Lb's to QB quickly.

    Larry
  2. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    they also have huge lb's with little speed.i think your on to something. run away form the fat boys in the middle.tyson get 10-12 carries
  3. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    How about a quick toss sweep or something that hits quickly off tackle? Hopefully they use less of that stretch play. It is a very slow developing play.
  4. TobiasEagle77

    TobiasEagle77 Member

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    The Eagles had alot of success running to the right, but that is the strength of our line in run-blocking.

    I'm interested to see if you guys have the same success running to the left (the strength of your O-line) or if you attack the right like we did.
  5. Justis

    Justis New Member

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    Actually the right could be considered our strength too. Along with our Pro Bowl guard and Pettiti, we also have some great TEs. Dan Campbell is practically an OT for how good a blocker he is.
  6. Billy Bullocks

    Billy Bullocks Active Member

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    We can run right alot better this year. But Larry Allen and Flozell Adams should be enough explanation to which side we are more adept at running to
  7. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Al Johnson is going to get manhandled by Ted Washington.
  8. Justis

    Justis New Member

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    Just like Jamal Williams did? Please, I'll believe it when I see it. On a side note, Gurode seems to be a better Center to run with.
  9. TobiasEagle77

    TobiasEagle77 Member

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    Fraley was able to handle Ted Washington, and Fraley usually REALLY struggles against nose tackles.

    Washington is not a good fit for what the Raiders are trying to do, and they expect him to play too many snaps.
  10. VirusX

    VirusX Active Member

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    Dont forget Oak doesnt have the worst tackling corners in the league.. I think we will have more success running outside but the quickest way to a first down is right up the gut. A good mix will probably be more effiecent but I do think Tyson will get a few shots at the Toss.
  11. Justis

    Justis New Member

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    Y'know, if Julius can just beat those big ol' LBers to the corner, he could tear em' up, he's great at breaking arm tackles.
  12. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Gurode hasn't played anywhere near the level Johnson has so far. Gurode had a terrible game against Washington (although he barely played, he was laughably poor on several plays while he was in), while Johnson was great in that game except for a couple of plays in the fourth quarter. And Johnson played every snap against San Francisco -- which seems like a wise move at this point -- and played pretty well.
  13. AmericasTeam31

    AmericasTeam31 Active Member

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    I agreed with the running outside part of your statement. But on this part I have a concern. Our coners, with the exception of Newman, are not the fastest by any means. If we are slower off the line than the Raiders, we need to give them room. If we jam them and they get a step on us after that we're screwed. They may not catch the ball too far down field but when they do catch it, we won't be able to catch them. I say we play 'em straight up like every one else. Moss' height is more of an issue for us than his speed. In the last game against him he only had 42 yards, but he had 2TD's on fade routes.
  14. Hollywood Henderson

    Hollywood Henderson Benched

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    I agree with you Larry...

    Moss needs to be jammed and Jammed again (Within the 5 yards rule)
    Its vital to distrupt their timing & not let him get deep...Jam & over the top S help...

    Al might be a better pass blocker, but Gurode is the better run blocker...
  15. AmericasTeam31

    AmericasTeam31 Active Member

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    Our safeties aren't the greatest in coverage. That's why I don't think we should be jamming. They can be in rythm all they want and if the recievers are covered it doesn't matter.
  16. LarryCanadian

    LarryCanadian Active Member

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    Well theoretically, the jam at line by CB who then runs with CB with safety help over the top gives everyone a tad more time to either get to QB or safety to see how play is developing, to come help. Our safety problem has been they haven't hung back enough or have bit on the run/pump fake, or gone to the wrong side etc. So safety play is important. Also the jam disrupts timing patterns. Our zone pass coverage has sucked for 3 years anyway, might as well get burned doing this. It's Collin's rhythm that could kill us. Don't let him get hot. Make them adjust, don't let them dictate I say.

    I agree the height factor for Moss is key in Redzone. Another thing I dread is if Zimmer and Parcells are stubborn and don't move our 3 top CB's around (and even our 4th and 5th CB in as help replacing a safety - they are taller and quicker than Davis and Roy). Moss is deadly two ways. The deep threat where he goes and gets long, up for grab passes and on short passes in endzone where he plays like Key does for us, shielding the ball and using his size. I say use Newman on him when their field is long, with a jam and then his speed to keep up. In Red zone, use Henry for more comparisson size wise and strength. We won't do it though. Way to stubborn and predictable.

    Larry
  17. parcellsguys

    parcellsguys New Member

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    I think the Cowboys will be using the dreaded screen pass a lot in this game to avoid those mammoth tackles and take advantage of the slow outside backers.

    Andre Gurdoe will be in this game a lot to hold off fat Sapp.

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