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Ryan Cook at G?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Ultimategamer5567, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. DezBRomo9

    DezBRomo9 Not enough blitzing.. Zone Supporter

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    He wouldn't be on the team if Nagy cleared waivers last year or didn't get hurt.
  2. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    i don't think cook will even make the roster. frderick will be the center and costa will be the backup. cook will be looking for a backup job somewhere else
  3. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    I don't. Trust me, I'm not one who has ever crowned guys like arkin or parnell. I know how thin we are there and I won't be surprised one bit if he's still on the roster. Still doesn't make it right. This will be 3 offseasons now since the purge of the oline...we shouldn't still be relying on ryan cook for God's sakes.
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I think it's going to be close either way...

    I don't see Cook beating out the starting 5:

    Smith
    Livings
    Frederick
    Bern
    Free

    I can't see him beating out:

    Leary
    Costa
    Parnell

    Now it starts getting dicey...

    Kowalski? Can he beat him out?
    Weems? The #4 tackle at present... can he beat him out?

    That's 10 guys right there. And you still have Arkin around.

    Costa and Parnell would be the active subs on game-day.
  5. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    frankly I think he is better than Costa and can certainly play more positions better
  6. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    yeah we should not have to rely on JAGS like Costa, Bernie, Livings, Cook, etc. But the years of incompetent drafting and developing has left us there
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I never thought Nagy was all that
  8. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That's not a surprise.
  9. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    outside of one game that all of you Costa slobber knockers drool over Costa has never looked like much
  10. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    If you casually watch the games in real time, then Cook appeared OK; however, when watching in great detail on the Coaches Film, it is obvious that he was the #1 problem with the running game.

    The reason that he did not stand out as terrible when initially watching the games is that he didn't have the highlight type screw-ups like bad snaps and complete whiffs in pass blocking. Failed run blocking is more difficult to narrow down to a specific OLineman.

    Cook is not strong enough to overcome the leverage disadvantage of being 6-6 when power run blocking and he is too slow footed to properly execute the Zone Stretch runs. The fact that he has well above average length (height, arm length) for an interior OLineman allows him to be a decent pass blocker.

    IMO, his "versatility" is way overrated. Both Parnell and Free are going to be active on game day; therefore, even if Cook could backup the OT position (which is doubtful), it would not save a game day roster spot. Frederick, Costa, Bernadeau and Kowalski can all play Center and Guard. Both Costa and Bernadeau were better than Cook at Center in the games they played at that position last season. IMO, Bernadeau was better at Center than at Guard. At Guard he has a tendency to be late off the snap; whereas, at Center he knows exactly when the ball will be snapped and that appeared to be helpful to him.

    The final problem with Cook is that the timing of his snaps had too much variance. This caused multiple false starts by other OLinemen, especially T. Smith early in the season. Smith and others adjusted later in the season by staying in their stance a split second longer. This caused them to sometimes be late off the snap when Cook's snaps were not delayed.
  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    #1 problem? That is arguable. He had a lot of company.
    Cook is what he is; a versatile backup that is handy to have around for that reason. I doubt he is good enough to be a solid starter at any position. Now given more work at one position he might surprise but I doubt it.
    And you very much underrate the versatility of someone that can play all 5 positions on the O line. That is VERY rare.
  12. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    I disagree with this. If Costa doesn't get hurt in training camp, I don't think Dallas would have traded for Cook. Heck, Kowalski was supposed to compete with Costa at center and he never even saw the field.

    This year we have Frederick and Costa primarily playing and possible competing at the spot, and Kowalski seems to be healthy now. Bernadeau got some work at center too. When DAVID ARKIN is STARTING at center in a preseason game, you must get desperate. The Cowboys did and traded for a JAG in Cook.
  13. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    [quote="burmafrd, post: 5108255, member: 3854"

    And you very much underrate the versatility of someone that can play all 5 positions on the O line. That is VERY rare.[/quote]

    I just explained why his possible ability to play OT is not all that beneficial. That leaves OC/OG where he is doubtful to be the top backup.

    If the interior is Livings, Frederick, and Bernadeau, then the game day backup interior spot could be Costa or it could be Leary with Bernadeau being the backup Center.

    There would have to be 2 players injured out of Livings, Frederick, Bernadeau, Costa and Leary for Cook to have a chance to be active on game day. Even then, he would have to beat out Kowalski who appears well suited for the Zone Blocking Scheme.

    Also, even if Cook can play OT, it would only be RT.
  14. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    No sense even trying to explain it to him, he hates Costa with every fabric of his being.
  15. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yep, too bad Costa took his fantasy girl.
  16. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    while you and others slobber all over him
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    wow, you consider her a fantasy girl? She is good looking and fairly hot- but fantasy? You have low standards for fantasy

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