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S Kenny Vaccaro Working Out w/ Cowboys on Wednesday

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by IAmLegend, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. jjktkk

    jjktkk Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    If I'm understanding the depth of this years draft class, OL, DL, and S are very deep. So even if Dallas does take Vaccaro at 18, they should still should be able to draft a starting caliber OL, or DLinemen with their 2nd, or even 3rd round pick.
  2. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Seattle didn't really sacrifice speed to get a couple of big players on the DL.

    Seattle's 2012 DL:

    SDE Red Bryant: 4.9 forty at 318 lbs.

    DT Alan Branch: 1.68 10-yard time at 324 lbs. Oddly, considered more of an upfield player than run stopper. Plays primarily the 3-tech.

    DT Brandon Mebane: Quick, penetrating player. Oddly plays more 1-tech than 3-tech.

    WDE Clemons/Irvin: Super quick, smallish DEs.
    DT Clinton McDonald:
    6-2, 297
    DT Jaye Howard: 6-3, 301
    SDE Greg Scruggs: 6-3, 284
  3. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    I just don't like Vaccaro. I want to really bad, since we're likely interested in him at 18

    He runs extremely well and he's obviously athletic enough to play FS and cover NFL players.

    It's just that, whenever I watch him, I don't see him actually do anything.
  4. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    Part of this is that he gets manned up in nickel situations.
  5. Ultimategamer5567

    Ultimategamer5567 Member

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    I'm for BPA regardless of need, but I seriously hope that Vaccaro is off the boards when Dallas is on the clock. I just don't see it. I don't see him as that one missing piece that's going to turn a slightly above average D into the next coming of the Doomsday. Given the way things might fall, there's a chance Dallas could be looking right at guys like Richardson, Warmack, (and/or) Cooper, perhaps even Jarvis Jones. I wouldn't hesitate taking any of those guys ahead of Vaccaro - and I'm a Longhorn fan through and through.
  6. MidEastBeastL337

    MidEastBeastL337 Member

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    About all the people worried about "uh ohh"

    Come on, he's clearly saying it just saying it jokingly. It has nothing to do without working out for any specific team or getting drafted by any specific team, he's just being silly referring to working out.

    Silly old guys trying to pick apart everything us youngin's say :p
  7. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    I don't think Barron was rated that much higher...some have said that Vaccaro could actually go in the top 10.

    I know the stats might favor Barron, but he has a couple things working for him in that regard. One is that he was surrounded by outstanding players, both in the front 7 and in the secondary, that made it easier for him to take risks and try to get INTs.

    And, to my knowledge, he was used differently than Vaccaro was. Vaccaro wasn't allowed to just sit back and play purely at FS very often and it is almost impossible to get INTs when you're primary responsibility is the slot receiver. But if you watch highlights/film of Vaccaro, you see a lot of plays where he breaks off of his inside zone and tips a ball headed to a receiver near the sideline. That shows a ton of athletic ability and great instincts, and makes him a better prospect than Barron imo.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Outside of Taylor, who I believe projects better to FS, I think he is the best Safety prospect this year.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Manthieu is going to come in with two strikes, more then likely. One and he's done once he gets to the NFL. No way in the world I would invest any significant amount of money on him. He's a 5th round pick at best IMO.
  10. MDHQ

    MDHQ New Member

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    Vaccaro will be gone by Dallas' pick. I think Carolina will take him.
  11. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Maybe some teams will cross him off their list, but it's illegal by union rules to say he only gets one strike and he's banned from the NFL.

    As long as you have talent, a team will find some way to give you another chance. It's just the reality of the league.
  12. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    I would like a G or DT in round one and then look at Cyprian later!
  13. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Badger has criminal and drug issues not to mention he got kicked off of his team. I doubt he is even on the Cowboys' board.
  14. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    You mean to tell me you don't acknowledge the difference between our DL and Seattle's DL? Because Spencer and Red Bryant are similar players right?

    Ratliff is 287lbs, Branch is pushing 330.
  15. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    You're probably correct, but I wish it wasn't so. I wish they'd make an exception for him because I think he's a really good teammate, is an exceptional football player and is a guy that the whole defense would gravitate towards. I think they'd all feed off of his energy.

    Hit on a guy like that and it totally changes the complexion of a defense... all for the price of (probably) a mid round pick.

    Miss on a guy like that and it costs you a mid round pick.

    Very high upside with limited downside.

    Besides, I think the Cowboys locker room is so good character wise right now that inserting a character risk like the Badger would in all likelyhood tend to pull him towards the right path rather than he pull others towards the wrong path.

    Mathieu practices hard, plays hard, and all his teammates love him. The only risk there is the weed. It isn't like he's a schmuck who isn't liked and would make waves. I honestly think he would be much more of a positive in the locker room than a negative.

    Oh well... you are probably right and Dallas takes him off their board. However, I hope that somehow Les Miles and Mo Claiborne have talked the Dallas brass into taking a shot on the guy.

    I would love to have him playing in the slot in the nickle and dime packages and on special teams.
  16. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    we had a player die in the car of a teamate under the influence of alchool and then a few months later had a team "leader" get arrested for DUI
  17. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Drinking happens in all locker rooms... overall I'd think we have a pretty good group of character guys though that likes to play the game and does things the right way. Will every guy do that? Of course not.

    IMO, it is a good group overall though.
  18. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    yes drinking happens........but drinking related deaths is not something that "happens"

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