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Sadly... I called it months ago

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by JackWagon, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    Months ago when i was contemplating who we were going to get in the draft ... i changed my sig to reflect what i thought Jerry would actually draft ...

    sadly i was correct ... except for the 1st rounder of 1 O lineman ... we drafted TE ... WR ... RB and DB.

    :bang2:

    The reason i predicted it was cause Jerry needs shiny things to sell to the idiots buying his tickets and merchandise.
  2. CopenhagenCowboy

    CopenhagenCowboy Active Member

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    Not exactly what you predicted.
  3. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    they clearly do not value OL & DL like better teams do.
  4. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Member

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    I agree
  5. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    Could also mean that they think they have good players there and are now set, this is far worse!:eek: :confused:
  6. Vabeachboy

    Vabeachboy Member

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    Who cares....sadly nobody does
  7. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    lol, except that 1 difference is a very big one. Spending their premium pick on the interior OL on someone they targeted and felt they had to have.

    :rolleyes:
  8. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Sadly, I knew months ago that the chicken littles would be out in full force
  9. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    So you made a blanket prediction that cover half the positions on the team. :confused:

    After Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick who was the 4th CB, oh yeah Mike Jenkins the raider. We needed Safety help is that part of the DB blanket prediction. Was I floored by some of the picks yeah but the question is if you are so good at evaluating talent why are you here and not in some teams front office.
  10. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    It is best to keep very low expectations when Jerry is drafting. That way if a pick does make it and is a good player, it is a pleasant surprise.
  11. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Except for the fact that we've drafted well the last few drafts. But please don't let facts get in the way of you're agenda.
  12. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I predicted that the stock market would go up and it did. I didn't say when it would go up, but it did eventually go up proving my prediction to be correct.:laugh2:
  13. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It never ceases to amaze me how posters here can be so wrong, so often, about the team and still be so surprised by how things actually turn out.

    Monte Kiffin probably knows a thing or two about the personnel for his defense. If he doesn't, he can always ask Rod Marinelli for his take. That's if you don't trust Jason Garrett for whatever reason.

    And yet, when the team doesn't draft for 'the trenches' along the DL, it's somehow the team that doesn't know what it's doing. It's like it never even crosses anybody's mind that maybe they were wrong, after all, about where the DL talent stands this year. And for whatever reason, the handful of vocal posters who agree with them that everything's a disaster is enough support to keep virtually every thread on the board spinning in circles every time the OL or the DL is brought up.

    Never mind that the team has actually spent consecutive first round picks and significant FA contracts on, literally, every starting position on the OL. Nevermind the obvious quality along the DL and the fact that there are multiple younger players with decent potential coming in off the bench. It's still the same flat, arrhythmic drumbeat in every thread.

    Guess what? Teams need skill position players, too. And they're typically harder to find. We went after interior protection and passing game weapons on offense. Because passing the ball effectively is what wins games in the NFL. Irrespective of who wins the trenches.

    We went after players who can take the ball away on defense, instead of trench players. Because turnovers lead to extra opportunities to pass the ball more effectively than the other guys. So they lead to wins. That's also why we got rid of Rob Ryan and brought in a defense that emphasizes taking the ball away in the passing game.

    There is no mystery here. There is only confusion as to why the team's acting counter to the way some of you guys think games are actually won. The good news for the rest of us is that the team's doing the right thing, and you guys have it backwards, as usual.
  14. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    No agenda. Low expectations. These last few drafts are unproven. One starter per draft is not getting the job done. There was some starter quality players that stayed injured in college and have continued that trend in the pros. I don't know what to think of them. Should they count as half a starter?
  15. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Neither team in the Super Bowl had as much talent as the Cowboys at the skill positions. Guess what they do have? Solid trenches. Whine all you want about any resources that have been used on the trenches, but the fact remains, it hasn't been enough. One OL don't fix all the holes. Yeah, we question the coaches and GM and don't trust their judgement. We have good reason not to trust their decisions. A certain portion of the fan base has been right more than the team. You remember your wait and see attitude about the jag free agent olinemen last season. Didn't you see enough?
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Lol. BAL won that Superbowl because their passing game kicked into a higher gear. And because they didn't turn the ball over. 11 passing TDs, 0 interceptions.

    Just like the Giants before them. And the Packers before them. You don't need 'to win the trenches' to win the game. You need to pass the ball effectively. Obviously, that correlates with pass protection, but it doesn't start with it.

    *I'm* not the one whining about the allocation of resources. I'm doing the opposite of whining about it. How can you be so confused on such a simple topic?

    And 'that it hasn't been enough' is not a fact. I'm not sure why you think it's a fact, but it's not a fact. It's an opinion.

    By all means, question the coaches. They're not perfect. But bear in mind, that two of them are new to the situation in Dallas, and they have a lot of experience. And they appear not to agree with you.

    And it's the same two who obviously also wanted the team to franchise Anthony Spencer. Another player more than half of your 'certain portion' wanted run out of here on a rail for having the temerity to want a $7-8M AAV contract two years ago.

    I *did* see enough. Thanks for asking. I'm on record saying the problems we had last year in pass protection were at 1. center, 2. RG for the first half of the season as Bernadeau struggled mightily coming back from surgery and learning the new scheme with limited time in camp and 3. RT.

    It seems to me that we addressed C and have likely made a move at RT. How are those new OGs working out?

    And, for the record, I was saying 'wait and see' on the new guards at a point where they'd been out with injuries and the entire line hadn't played a single game time snap together. Which was an absolutely reasonable position to take under those circumstances. I'd submit that giving up on both FA OGs prior to that was an unbelievably sophomoric overreaction. And you'd have a tough time proving me wrong.
  17. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    As usual, low expectations and high excuses.
  18. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Quite the opposite. I understand the reasons why we haven't won enough games, and I want to change the things that matter, instead of worrying about things that are of lower importance.

    What's cool, though, is that the team seems to be headed in that same direction, fortunately, so, not only do I get to watch them address the actual problem areas, I get to do it to a chorus of 'boos' from people who want to see us bet the farm on interior offensive linemen.
  19. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    it could be argued that we have a lot harder time finding Linemen then skilled position players.
  20. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Backups at skill positions are really going to help when Tony is running for his life or the ball is being run right down the defense's throat. The trenches was the biggest problem on the team and you want more skill players. You know nothing about the game.

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