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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Colo, Apr 2, 2007.

  1. cobra

    cobra Salty Bastard

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    Anyone who thinks Sidney Rice is better than Dwayne Bowe is delusional.

    Sidney Rice has a big bag of nothing. He is a 2nd round pick that is a project.

    Dwayne Bowe is a clear 1st round prospect.

    I really, really wish I could understand the hard-on some of you have for Sidney Rice... but I take solace in that I don't see anything in him to put him in the 1st round and neither do most of the experts.



    Edit: to expand on that a litte: Rice is thin and weak and doesn't have good speed. He is going to have to get stronger and put on weight. What is that going to do to his speed? Just to get to an acceptable level, he will have to put on 15+ pounds. For a guy who already lacks explosiveness and speed, adding weight will just slow him down more. He already doesn't give you ANYTHING after the catch in college, so what is he going to do in the NFL? Furthermore, he only played 2 years and should have played more. He needs a lot of work on route-running. He is a developmental project. Will he master route-running and the nuances of playing WR in the NFL? Maybe. But even if he could, his lack of speed and explosiveness and game-breaking ability means he has a very high bust factor.
  2. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    great stuff can you do this with Meachem too.. please
  3. cobra

    cobra Salty Bastard

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    The mock today from GBN doesn't have Rice going in the first 3 rounds.

    He has
    1st Round
    2 Detroit Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
    17 Jacksonville Ted Ginn WR Ohio State
    22 Dallas Dwayne Bowe WR LSU
    23 Kansas City Dwayne Jarrett WR Southern California
    25 New York Jets Robert Meacham WR Tennessee
    30 San Diego Steve Smith WR Southern California

    2nd Round

    37 Chicago Craig Davis WR LSU
    45 Carolina Anthony Gonzales WR Ohio State
    60 Miami Jason Hill WR Washington State
    64 Tampa Bay Aundrae Allison WR East Carolina

    3rd Round
    72 Minnesota Paul Williams WR Fresno State
    76 San Francisco Johnnie Lee Higgins WR UTEP
    81 New York Giants Mike Walker WR Central Florida
    88 New Orleans David Clowney WR Virginia Tech

    So GBN has 14 WRs going in the first 3 rounds and Rice isn't one of them.

    I could definitely see him slipping into the 3rd. I think he should be rated along with Allison and Paul Williams at around the 9-11 WR in the draft.
  4. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    here you go Zaxor

    Kentucky

    Meachem-6 rec 116 yards 1 TD
    Bowe-6 rec 111 3 TDs

    LSU

    Meachem-5rec 121 yards 2 TDs
    Bowe-6rec 89 yards 1 TD

    Arkansas

    Meachem-4rec 65 yards 1 TD
    Bowe-5rec 68 yards 0 TD

    Florida

    Meachem-4rec 47 yards 0 TD
    Bowe-6 rec 50 yards 0 TD

    Common opponents, yes I count head-2-head matchups as common opponents:

    Meachem-19 rec, 349 yards, 18.4 ypc, 4 TDs
    Bowe-23 rec, 318, 13.8 ypc, 4 TDs
  5. Zaxor

    Zaxor Virtus Mille Scuta

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    thanks man

    and Meachem had Ainge throwing to him... and Ainge ain't no Russell
  6. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    If Nelson, Branch, Moss and Spencer are on the board and we pick Bowe I am going to be pissed. there is excellent value to be had in the second with guys like Huggins, Smith, Gonzalez, Williams and Hill.

    To me passing on Branch who would come in and contribute immediately would be a huge mistake. Branch is not one of the 305 lbs Spears types who rely on quickness that tend to bust. Hes a 330 lbs mauler in the mold of Hampton and Wilfork.
  7. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    But Meachem didn't have two other receivers taking away his production. Bowe had Davis, a 2nd rounder, and Doucet, a 1st rounder next year, taking away some catches. Also, you could compare their common opponents for 3 years, and I suspect it would be vastly in Bowe's favor.
  8. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    Me too... The run to the bathroom and throw up dance!:lmao:
  9. Pabst

    Pabst Active Member

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    The flip-side of that would be that Meachem probably is constantly taking on the #1 corners of the other teams, whereas Bowe more than likely had quite a few matchups against the #2 and #3 CBs, due to his teammates' prowess as recievers.

    I'm not disputing your point, and I think it's certainly valid when comparing collegiate production. I'm just playing Devil's advocate.
  10. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    YESSSS!!!!!
  11. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    Meachem had 6 more receptions

    oh noess!!!
  12. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Maybe. I think with Bowe and Meachem you've got pretty equivalent talents, both physically and production-wise. We're just splitting hairs. I think both will be productive in the NFL, but I like Bowe because of his aggression and willingness to go over the middle, but of which I've seen Meachem criticized for.
  13. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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