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Sean Lee v. Dez Bryant - Better player?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    This is the 3rd time I have made this poll. I do believe the results are slightly skewed due to my reputation of not being a big Dez Bryant fan but I still find this a very interesting discussion. It is clearly not cut and dry and they have both developed into elite players.

    I have always and still do maintain the position that Sean Lee is a better player then Dez. I want to see how it shakes out with everyone else on the forums. The first time Dez won with 93% of the vote, the second time that fell to about 80%.
  2. Erik_H

    Erik_H Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun. Zone Supporter

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    apples to oranges. Silly poll
  3. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    How can you NOT be a big Dez fan? I'm curious to know, please explain.
  4. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    You want to compare a linebacker to a receiver?

    OK...I'll just put it out there. Dez is better than Miles.

    :rolleyes:
  5. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    Seriously?
    Lee is very solid as a ILB. However, after he went down we signed a guy off the streets (Sims) who stepped in and did a very respoctable job. People often put too much stock in the ILB position, especially in a 3-4.
    Also, I dont think Lee is considered a top 5 ILB.

    Now if Dez Bryant goes down how easy would he be to replace? There are very few that could even close to filling his role, let alone with his talent.


    In closing, Bryant wins this by a landslide.
  6. IAmLegend

    IAmLegend Well-Known Member

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    Dez is a top 5 WR in the game right now. It's Dez.
  7. CopenhagenCowboy

    CopenhagenCowboy Active Member

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    This is indeed apples to oranges.
  8. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    Is comparing DeMarcus Ware to DeMarco Murray as a player a ridiculous discussion? Not really. It isn't the same position so criteria should differ from person to person but it is not impossible.

    It is the same thing as comparing Jerry Rice or Barry Sanders as a player.
  9. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    Is it? sean lee may be great but he cant stay heathy.
  10. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member

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    :laugh2: Sean Lee is better than solid. He's top 5 at his position because he is a beast who plays the run and covers well.

    The only reason this poll may be considered legitimate is because it's a "who's a better player" overall comparison. Other wise, I'd agree that it's an apples to oranges comparison.
  11. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member

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    Now that would be a landslide. :laugh1:
  12. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    There's NO DOUBT, Dez is definately better then Miles. I'm still waiting for him to explain how he's NOT a big Dez fan.
  13. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    lol No. Just no...

    Lee is one of the better ILB in the game. I like him and feel fortunate that he is a Cowboy but no way is he a top 5. In fact I wouldnt be one bit shocked if many dont even consider him the best one on the Dallas roster.
  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I actually like this question. It is apples to oranges, obviously, but so what. What's better, an apple or an orange?

    Both good, young players. Both might be the best players we've got on either side of the ball. I went with Dez after some deliberation because he's got a lower injury quotient and because he kind of exploded the second half of the season, and I choose to believe that he'll continue playing at that level.
  15. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Is a guy who plays 8 games a year better than the guy who plays almost all the games? Absolutely not
  16. kazzd58

    kazzd58 Member

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    Dez no contest... Y? Because i bet Dez can play Seans position effectively... Sean cant produce what Dez does at his position
  17. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    Its close for sure cause Carter is damn good too. He's physical, fast, covers well, finds the football, tackles well, sheds blockers extremely well, makes tackles behind the LOS, but his speed may just set him apart from Lee. We're lucky to have both and they're young.
  18. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I would assume the results have all been in favor of Dez and I don't think at all they are skewed by your history at all.

    The question itself is open to multiple interpretations.

    What is "better"?

    Production?
    • If so, production favors Dez. Even though both have had injuries, Dez has missed fewer games and thus had produced. I wouldn't exactly point to his his first two seasons as being all that great but 2013 is likely where he gets the nod. I would probably say that Lee had the better 2nd year relative to what you would expect from their position but this seasons Dez was simply on another level for the second half. Furthermore, I would say that production potential favors Dez in that if he hits his ceiling he will be one of the top, if not the top, WRs in the NFL. While Lee is a very good player I don't think his ceiling is as high.

    Knowledge and dependability when on the field?
    • I think this goes to Lee and without question. Not really sure there's much more to elaborate on. When Lee is out there, he's the leader of the defense.

    "It" Factor?
    • By this I mean the ability to make plays when they are seemingly needed most. I think both are certainly capable but I think Dez has the advantage in that he gets significantly more chances.

    Leadership?
    • I already touched on it but I think this goes to Lee. He's the brain on defense. Dez might possess some emotional aspects in terms of leadership but as long as Romo is around, Romo will lead the offense.

    "Better" player doesn't exactly articulate the vast differences between the two players themselves, aside from the positional aspect.

    I think you can make arguments either way. Dez will most certainly show up in the highlight reel more often but that should be expected. Lee to a certain extent is limited in his ability to impact a game on an individual basis but his effect can also be more than that as far as the defense as a whole is considered. If he lines the defense up in the right position and it results in a turnover, Lee is the guy who put things in motion.

    Who's the dousche LB that played for the Giants up until a couple years ago? I can't think of his name but he called an audible at the last moment on Romo one game and it basically resulted in an interception in the flat.

    By the same token, that play was made by someone else regardless if that player was essentially told what to do.

    For me, I think both are very good players. I think both could be great. Dez has the advantage of getting individual recognition for individual effort on a more regular basis. Lee has the disadvantage of possibly orchestrating a solid performance from the unit and nobody really noticing.

    I picked Dez because ultimately if each were to reach their ceiling and play the rest of their careers at peak potential, Dez would be one of the best to ever play WR and Lee likely won't be in a similar discussion as far as LBs go.
  19. Mansta54

    Mansta54 Well-Known Member

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    To the OP, why aren't you a big Dez fan? What don't you like about him, does his negatives show up more then his positives, how can you NOT be a big fan of his? Please explain, I'm curious and listening.
  20. TTexasTT

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    Agreed. I am so freaking excited to see them both healthy and on the field together. Bruce Carter may be the most althletic LB in the game. Complete beast.

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