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Selvie "It's a great scheme"

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Boys#1 95, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. Boys#1 95

    Boys#1 95 Active Member

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    IRVING – With Spencer needing to have another knee operation – this time, one that will end his season – Selvie, a temporary starter, has become a permanent first-teamer on the left side.

    Selvie, a seventh-round pick by the St. Louis Rams in 2010, has had a strong start to the season, going from camp body to a player that has started all three games, the only starts of his NFL career.

    After a year in St. Louis, one with Carolina and two in Jacksonville, the former South Florida standout appears to be an ideal fit for Rod Marinelli’s defensive line group.

    “It’s a great scheme,” Selvie said. “You go out there and attack, get after it, strip balls, get sacks, just go out there and have fun, that’s what we do in this scheme. That’s what we love to do and that’s what our coaches encourage us to do every day.”

    “The Cowboys have given me an opportunity to rush the passer,” Selvie said, “and I’m grateful for that.”

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    More: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2...in-a-scheme-that-allows-him-to-sack-qbs.html/

    Hope he continues to play well...Dallas needs him.
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  2. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    We should be trying to extend him. He's good playing forward, and a liability of sorts in coverage, so we're a great place for him. I don't understand why there isn't automatically a club option for a second year on these veteran street FA deals. It seems like a no-brainer to me if the player hits. The same thing we should have had in place for Robinson two seasons ago. Is there something in the CBA that makes that impossible or unpalatable that I just don't know about?
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  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I'd rather see what he does over the course of the season. Three games is just way too small of a sample size.

    We have to get past this mindset of....OMG he can play a little, extend him!
  4. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It all depends on the extension. I'd do it now, when he's still a backup player that got elevated to the rotation and while he remembers clearly what it was like to be on his couch without a phone call at the start of camp. He knows this fit is a good one for him, since he has no coverage responsibilities.

    And I'd be looking at a 2-3 year extension right now in the starting-quality backup range, not more than that. I think we'd probably agree that Selvie's very likely a product of this system and we don't want to break the bank on him. But getting him under contract early with Crawford coming back and looking at spending a high pick on the DL next draft gives us some options for what we do with Hatcher and for the likelihood that both Rat and Spencer are gone next season, too. I just don't like all the DL uncertainty we've got elsewhere right now. If we can lockup a stop-gap player here early, I'd try to do it.
  5. Matts4313

    Matts4313 Active Member

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    We do have him for two years under contract. Confirmed by the website "Over the Cap" and from Bryan Brodus on Twitter.
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Are you sure? That's great if so. I thought he was on a one-year deal, but it's not anything I'd heard much about, one way or another.
  7. Boys#1 95

    Boys#1 95 Active Member

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    yeah, its two years.
  8. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Perfect, then. I think that's the right amount of time for a veteran FA. One year to see what he can do, a bonus year for the team if their risk pays off, and then a new deal based off of a long-enough body of work for the team to be able to risk a long-term commitment. Or else, back to the couch.
  9. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Both Selvie and Hayden are signed for two years.
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  10. Boys#1 95

    Boys#1 95 Active Member

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    You mean "Bricklayer" and "Golden Cock" lol!!
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  11. JerryJonesMustGo

    JerryJonesMustGo Active Member

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    Great college player going into his JR year. Not sure what happened after that. Anyone know?
  12. JohnsKey19

    JohnsKey19 Well-Known Member

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    He looks good so far. We should have a better idea around Thanksgiving or so. Looks like he could contribute 8-10 sacks over a 16 game season. He was a guy who primarily played on running downs before coming here so i don't expect him to be a liability in that area.

    You look back at the early 2000s Tampa defenses and they never really had a guy opposite Simeon Rice putting up huge sack numbers. Guys like Marcus Jones and Ellis Wyms chipped in with anywhere b/t 3-6 sacks per season. Selvie appears to be at least as effective rushing the passer as those guys...
  13. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. He made a name for himself in the preseason against Dallas Thomas who is a struggling rookie. Since then he's gone up against two more struggling rookies who haven't looked good (Pugh, Fisher), and a 2 yr vet making his first start (Barksdale).

    I like him a lot. I like that he's stepped up and he certainly seems to be going in the right direction.

    But let's not get carried away. It's way too early to tell for sure. .
  14. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Selvie is not going to be anything more than a solid backup/rotational guy I dont think, no need to rush and give him more money than he's actually worth.
  15. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It sounds like it's academic, but what about a rush to give him just the right amount of money? A proper extension doesn't mean the team necessarily overpaid. You just do it to make sure you've got your contracts setup right for coming years so that you're not over a barrel at any particular position group in any particular offseason.

    Two years works fine for me, for Selvie, though. I just don't like giving guys starter snaps on one-year VFA deals. Those always are going to end up with the guy getting a premium to play elsewhere. If you're going to bring him in and give him snaps, you should have an option on him if he develops. It sounds like that's what we've done here, though I've seen conflicting reports, I'll happily accept it's a two-year contract in this case if that's what other posters are confirming.
  16. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    Where have you seen that Selvie is signed for two years? I haven't seen it anywhere.
  17. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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  19. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    He's a solid player, IMO, that I would rather have as part of a rotation instead of starting. We can get by, I suppose, with him starting this season, but I'd like to have someone better by next year.

    Maybe Spencer is back, or perhaps Crawford comes back all the way from his achilles, or we bring in someone else.

    I do feel lucky that we found him off the street this year though. And who knows? Maybe he proves me wrong in the course of the season and he is dominant enough to keep the starting gig.
  20. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Must give credit to the scouting department. Luck had nothing to do with it.

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