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Shanahan comment about Romo

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by AmberBeer, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    For those of us that support Romo this is exactly what we see.

    “I think the people that see Tony practice every day and the teammates know what he can do. But you do it as a team,” Shanahan said. “Everybody’s got to do it together. I know when I was with John going into the 15th, 16th year, you had the same people saying that he couldn’t do it throughout his whole career and then when he does it, everybody’s, ‘Ah, well, we knew he could do it.’ It’s the same old thing. You’ve just got to fight through it. You can’t listen to the critics and you’ve got to believe in yourself. And I’m sure that’s what Tony’s doing.”
  2. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    Another fine Eastern Illinois University man.

    Princeton...what?
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  3. Titleist

    Titleist Active Member

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    Yep, gotta agree with Shanahan here. It's unfortunate that so many people (including many here on CZone) buy into the media's portrayal of Romo as an intrinsic choker. "That's just who he is"... the same darn thing was said about Elway 20 years ago, but he kept working and eventually achieved his goal (twice).

    If the talent is there, which it certainly is in Romo, then there is always a chance. Just need the right supporting cast and hope that the football gods are on his side for once. He can do it, no doubt in my mind.
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  4. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Love the OP. But most aren't going to change their mind because Shanahan says they're wrong. I mean he doesn't know anything more than Aikman, Staubach, Garrett yada. What do they know? /sarcasm off
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  5. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Elway won a number of playoff games including a clutch performance vs Cleveland in the 86 AFC Championship game (the drive) and played in 3 SB's before finally winning one. He showed he was a clutch performer even during the seasons when Denver kept coming up short. Elways teams got blown out in those SB's it wasn't like they were tight games and he folded in the end when he had to make a play. Denver got so far behind in those games he had to press. Elway played in more SB's than Romo has playoff appearances.
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  6. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Still Shanahan has a point about QBs getting too much blame and being branded unfairly when they have the talent but the team doesn't. That is the issue not comparing Elway to Romo. You won't be able to do that until Romo is gone from here.
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Elway couldn't get over the hump until a good running game took some of the pressure off of him. Romo has chocked in some big games, but it remains to be seen if he can get over the hump and we won't know until he gets a decent running game.
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  8. punchnjudy

    punchnjudy Well-Known Member

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    A back who could turn nothing into something in the passing game (without fumbling) would help too.
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  9. DallasCowboysRule!

    DallasCowboysRule! Well-Known Member

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    When/If Romo wins a Super Bowl it will be the sweetest victory to shut up all the nay sayers.
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  10. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    A good running game isn't going to prevent Romo from turning the ball over when a significant game is on the line. There's a reason he has 12 turnovers in 7 elimination games it's because he can't handle big game pressure. Big games come down to QB's having to make plays regardless of their running game. You have to pass the ball to win. On Monday Night Matt Ryan led the Falcons to a go ahead TD with about 2 minutes to play. That was a clutch drive. Then Geno Smith a ROOKIE got his chance and showed poise leading the Jets down the field with less than 2 minutes to play and put them in a position to win the game with a FG. He didn't turn the ball over in that situation he made plays.

    He completed 4 passes and scrambled for 3 yards giving his team an opportunity to win the game with time running down. You don't see poise like that from Romo in those situations especially on the road. If you don't have a QB who can make plays in critical situations without turning the ball over you're never going to win a championship. The playoffs and SB's are all coming down to QB's having to make plays to win.
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  11. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I agree that Romo can choke with the best of them, but Elway did as well. A decent running game would take enough pressure off of him that a honest , no excuses evaluation can be made about Romo. The team is stuck with him now, choker or not. I never would have resigned him because of his history in big games. Now that they are stuck with him, they need to eliminate any extra pressure on him and hope for the best.
  12. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    All QB's choke once in awhile even the very best but that's all Romo's known for. Elway choked in some games but he's best known for one of the most clutch drives in NFL history. There's no significant game that anyone can point to with Romo and say he was clutch in the final minutes of that game.
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  13. DallasCowboysRule!

    DallasCowboysRule! Well-Known Member

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    People say Romo choked but then forget how he led us back from 15 down in the second half to take the lead. A choker doesn't even get that far.
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  14. CowboyFan4Eva

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    Very good quote,,,,....I am hard on romo....but don't want to see him go. 15 years before. ELway won.......think abut that. Also. Same thing was said about manning. And moon....and countless others.....
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  15. Cebrin

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    Was that Elway or was that The Broncos? Can't seem to remember.........:rolleyes:
  16. tico

    tico Active Member

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    He is far improved this year, I believe that INT maybe his last big-game fail this year.. Murray needs to give him a hand.. I think he can get us out of this hole into
    a winning record..
  17. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    I remember and the Broncos wouldn't have won anything without Elway. They had no business being in the first 3 SB's Elway led them to.
  18. Zman5

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    I also remember Elway being an int machine. He too would just sling it at times.
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  19. Cebrin

    Cebrin Active Member

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    Elway, the second coming of Jesus.
    Haha, apparently you don't. The guy never even threw 30 TD's in a single season. He was quite the gunslinger who rode the backs of some great RB's as most teams did in that era. He was 0-3 in his first 3 Super Bowls in which he barely ever scored. He had a high Caliber defense that Romo would DIE to have. Until an amazing RB by the name of Terrell Davis came to town. His first Superbowl with Terrell Davis he had no Touchdowns, an INT but Terrell Davis put in work with 3 rushing TD's and they won. The second Super Bowl he won he had two pro bowl receivers, Pro Bowl Tight End and a Pro Bowl Running Back. Not to mention a solid Defense with multiple Pro Bowl players. I'm not saying Elway wasn't a great QB. I'm just saying, it takes more than just a QB to win big. Even the great Manning still only has one and he's leaps and bounds a better QB than Elway ever dreamed of. The Dallas Cowboys as a whole have been a disaster at building a team since the Glory Day's of the 90's. Romo is a gift to this organization full of mediocrity.
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  20. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Apparently I do know Elway played in a different era where few QB's threw for more than 30 TD's in a season. It's a passing league now and every QB's numbers today are inflated. There's average QB's putting up bigger numbers than HOF QB's from years past because the game has changed it's geared towards passing. The last I checked the top 7 all-time passing rating leaders are current QB's. QB's are playing under different rules today open your eyes. That amazing RB you're talking about Terrell Davis isn't even in the HOF. Back in Elway's day you needed a running game to win and a solid defense it's different game today. It's a QB driven league and more is asked of QB's today than ever before. A team with a 2100 yard rusher couldn't get past the first round of the playoffs last season because their QB sucked. Look at the mega numbers Flacco had to produce in the playoffs last season to lead Baltimore to a championship.

    Look at the numbers Peyton Manning is putting up this season. You dominate today by throwing the ball and scoring a lot of points. No longer is it 4 yards and a cloud of dust and a great defense. All defenses are struggling today with the rule changes, multiple receiver sets and passing. Denver's defense ranks lower than the Cowboys but they score close to 50 points a game on offense. Only Cowboy FANS would be arguing Romo vs Elway. lol
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