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Sharif Floyd

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by rpatricc, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Probably could've got both in the draft.

    Whatever though. We needed a solid player inside and hopefully Frederick is that.

    Ratliff is so disappointing.
     
  2. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    I'll wait until he cracks the 2nd team before making any bold predictions. He could very well end up being a stud, but he's done nothing so far. Even in pre-season when all these guys look like "stars".
     
  3. nickjamesw43

    nickjamesw43 Active Member

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    I was in favor of taking Floyd. That said if you were to redo the draft right now T-Fred is probably going top 20 and Floyd falls out of the first.

    I don't think you can judge drafts that way necessarily I think you go by the information available at the time. If this kind of draft strategy becomes more systematic by the front office I would be very concerned. However for the most part they've been sticking to their board so I'm pretty content just to count our blessings on this one and watch T-Fred maul some defensive tackles.
     
  4. ThreeandOut

    ThreeandOut Well-Known Member

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    Really a moot point anyways as Carolina picked him ahead of Dallas' selection. I don't think Dallas had Short rated that highly. If they hadn't taken Escobar, they probably would have taken Williams in the 2nd.
     
  5. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Yeah, that's what I meant when I said, "although he wouldn't have made it to our pick".
     
  6. ThreeandOut

    ThreeandOut Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, missed that part...it's been a long day.

    Actually, I'm kind of interested in seeing what Hayden and Bass can do with Ratliff out. I think we get our DT in next year's draft with Will Sutton being my pet cat.
     
  7. dmq

    dmq If I'm so pretty, why am I available?

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    Jerry comes out smelling like Roses, but the trade back was to grab Pugh. Frederick was a nice consolation prize.
     
  8. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    I was watching the draft cam and when the Panthers took Star thats when it looked like they were upset. I think Dallas was wanting Star or Cooper but neither was there so they took the trade. I think Frederick was on their board the whole time was just hoping to come up with Star or Cooper then get Frederick. Would look much better Star/Cooper then get Frederick and Williams, Wilcox, Webb, Holloman. Eitherway I for one like our draft class and the best part so far is most of them have been on the field. Bass, Crawford, Lissemore, Wilbur, Hayden, Selvie and Co. look like decent prospects and the OL has some as well. I like the outlook of this YOUNG developing team
     
  9. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    does it matter that your scenario was possible? We made a great pick in TFred and Williams looks OK so far.
    Center was as big a need as DT and TFred is diffidently looking like his better at his position then Floyd at
    his,so far. Next year when we draft DL in the first you can ***** about something else.
     
  10. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    this is my question also but Floyd isn't looking all that so we did good.
     
  11. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I don't know why people are saying Floyd doesn't look good. I'm fine with looking like an idiot for the next 10 years, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Floyd is gonna be an All-Pro for the next decade. People think he's not "all that" because he isn't first team, but it's normal for most rookies to not be first team. From every report I've read, Floyd is playing very well and will probably be a stud for the next 10 years. That being said, I'm still happy with having Frederick because I feel like Romo is our best chance at winning a Super Bowl and he needs all the help he can get.
     
  12. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Umm.. yes? No? I have no idea. o_O
     
  13. cnhnyy

    cnhnyy Active Member

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    He has done nothing so far? Since you are into pre-season game performance, he was the highest rated rookie in week 1 per PPT.

    23. Shariff Floyd, DT, Minnesota VikingsGrade: +3.6 Snaps: 15
    Analysis: Floyd looked dominant for the Vikings before a knock to the knee sent him to the sidelines for the rest of the game. In the 15 snaps he was on the field for, he looked quick, powerful and destructive against both the run and the pass.


    T-Fed was -1.7
     
  14. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe that there are almost 100 posts about a guy that ISN'T on our team

    [x] we didn't pick him
    [x] we got terrific value for our first round pick, better than Floyd IMO (Fred + Williams)
    [x] it is a bonus that we had a SERIOUS need in the interior of the OL and filled it
    [ ] comparisons generally should start once both players have played in meaningful games/situations
     
  15. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    Was he playing withe starters? i dont think so.
     
  16. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    So go build a Time Machine, and stop complaining.
     
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  17. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    No, we couldn't have.
     
  18. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Fred and Pugh were back to back on their board.
     
  19. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Wow, so a meaningless formula evaluating a meaningless amount of snaps versus backups indicated that Floyd was "dominant?" By the way, he had one tackle in that game. Domination!!!!
     
  20. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    It's not. My go to draft resource didn't.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90293&draftyear=2013&genpos=C

    Once Pugh and Long were reached for all bets for the next off the board were off. Seeing how well he has played, it's reasonable to think some people in an organization may have done some better scouting than 'every draft site.'

    This is an aside but the value of the draft was in how the talent from the second through the third was very high and very consistent and the talent up top was weak relative to previous years. This is reasonable because of a very very weak class of skill positions. One undersized WR, no RB, no QB merited top picks. I have been asking what people thing that means for value in the first and for value through the third. I would think it would devalue the first and up the price on the later pick but that is just me.
     

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