Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by rpatricc, Aug 27, 2013.
I agree! He'd be cheaper as well!
Your only point i agree with is sticking to the board. Luckily Floyd has appeared not to be worth the 18th pick so we lucked out.
for me, the only player i am somewhat rueing about from the first round is jonathan cooper...but i fully understand we had no realistic shot at him. while i am not rueing the vaccaro pick, i am pleased that he is playing so well right now....even if it is for the vile saints.
Yet, in a post not far above the one I quoted you said to not take Escobar and to draft another OL there. So you are signing off on exactly what you say here you should never do, because Escobar was the highest ranked player on our board when we picked in the second.
So should they or should they not draft the highest ranked player on their board? If you say that outside influences can make you get away from the exact order of your board, then you are saying it is ok to draft Frederick when you have a crying need on the OL and there has just been the biggest run on OL the draft had ever seen.
Not necessarily saying passing on Floyd was a bad idea but not taking a DT in the first three rounds was idiotic. The decision looks even worse now. Instead of a starting DT in round 2, we got a TE that may be inactive most game days.
And who would you have taken?
Of course there are outside influences, like if you have a franchise QB, you dont draft a QB in the 1st round, even if he's higher on your board. But you stick to the board, especially in the first round. You take Floyd. And then, presuming you have Fred ranked above Escobar, you take Fred. If there was such a huge run on OL, you trade up to take Fred.
Someone gets it.
I'll take that bet.
We were NEVER EVER going to take Floyd. Very good player that doesn't fit the new schme. We dropped down to take Williams in my opinion based war room reactions when he was selected.
We recovered with Fredericks but we were never going to take Floyd and they said as much. You don't drop down to select a player that is already rated higher than your draft position. I wish people would stop with the Floyd discussion.
Now I can agree with most of that. I like the idea of what an Escobar can bring to the offense if they want to go 12 personal, but I would've have liked to get a DL instead. There were some pretty good ones available.
Just wondering, if we were never ever going to take Floyd, why was he even on our board? Teams take players off their boards all the time for scheme fit, character issues, etc. Yet, Floyd was still on our board, and Top 15 to boot...
Gee maybe it wasn't luck it was the cowboys professional people know more than posters?
Marinelli and Kiffin didn't want him.
Right, because we're "loaded" or something, right?
Yep, I remember reading the same thing, i.e. Baltimore with Newsome, one of the best GMs in the game, wanted him. We beat him to the punch, the point being, nothing is guaranteed. If we got the C we needed, it's irrelevant that we 'traded down'.
Looking at how Tanney was getting blasted behind that O-Line in that last preseason game and looking at how Romo was getting blasted in prior seasons, the Frederick pick was the right one. Unless we plan on holding the other team to under 3 points every game, we simply had to use some top picks on O-line, and from what I've seen on Frederick, I can't complain about the pick at all.
No, they didn't want him because the think he is over-rated, meaning not worth the pick so high. You can be loaded with sucky guys already and add another sucky guy, you'll still suck. But yeah, what does the best DL coach in football know...
The point is, you can't just say "Kiffin didn't like him" all the time when Kiffin's opinion on the current DL depth has been questionable to begin with. Maybe we should let coaches coach and scouts scout?
Kiffin and Marinelli both??? We should just ignore their opinion, especially when it's forceful and built on years of experience? And what is qeustionable about it? If Floyd is what you claim he is, it would have nothing to do with depth. Why would they draft a top pick for depth purposes? Additionally, the same thing could be said about the OL. Our depth sucks with OL. If Frederik goes, we are essentially back to square one with a bunch of scrubs. I haven't watched much pre-season, but from what I've heard, the second line folds like a deck of cards.