Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Compacity, Dec 19, 2005.
Cowboys win out + Bucs lose one... Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys would be in the playoffs...
After what a mediocre Redkins D-line just did to our offense this week, I'm having trouble getting my mind around the concept of what Carolina's line is going to do to us.
Well, we can beat the Rams but we must have the game of our lives to beat the Panthers...COULD happen but it would be a huge upset...
what about the vikes?
And there is the problem....we have to win out.
If the Cowboys win out and Bucs lose only one then the Bucs and Boys are in and Washington is out of the picture. Washington is NOT going to beat both New York and Philadephia!
We can win out. It can happen. It's the same team that beat San Diego, NY Giants, Philadelphia badly when they had all of the horses, and had the best team in the NFC on the ropes in their house... they can beat Carolina, no question.
But it's very disappointing the way teams are running the ball on us (good for us the big back ain't playing this week).
Has this stretch of bad run defense games coincided with Ellis and Glover's reduced roles in the defense?
And Fujita/Fowler being given more time due to Singleton/Nguyen injuries? (I think this is most likely)
Or Anthony Henry banged up, keeping Roy away from the line more?
All the above?
Our run D has to start showing up if we're going to do anything.
I bet Julius Peppers can't wait to meet our offensive line... Carolina should be a fun one. Hopefully getting kicked in the face does something for this team's level of pride in themselves.
If Dallas can't beat St. Louis, they deserve to stay home anyway.
If we win out, and bucs loose one, we are still not for sure in. Bucs would be close to owning the tie-breaker over the cowboys, in Strength of Victory.
The more likely scenario would be, cowboys win out (first and foremost), and redskins loose one of their next two (best shot would be a loss to the giants). Then we are in.
As for the viks, we own the tie-breaker, if both of us win out.
If we beat Carolina, and the Bucs beat New Orleans, there is no way we shouldn't have the SOV tiebreaker. That SHOULDN'T happen.....
Well then I guess this is decision week, TB plays ATL and the Cowboys play Carolina. TB plays NO to close out the season and I don't seem them beating TB so LETS GO DVD!!!!!!
Concidering this is a road game, I'm more worried about the offense. After the last 5 road games theres nothing to lead me to believe that even if the D comes up pretty decent again (as say it did in Jerzey) and only allows 13 points, that we'll score more than 10.
Guess we can always pray they pitch a shut out.
Assuming we can win the final two games, which is more likely:
TB loosing One of last two.
Was loosing One of last two (next week against the giants, who are playing for the NFC east).
It seems more likely the redskins could loose than the bucks. Just my opinion.
5 and 1/2 point underdogs is not a huge upset.
Now if we were 14 point underdogs, then that would be a huge upset.
it is only 2 games, and one of the teams that we play blows.
it's not like winning out means reeling off 4 or 5 in a row...
Um, if we win out, and the Skins win out, and the bucs lose 1. Tampa and Wash would be in, and we would be out.
The tie breaker would be between Tampa and Wash first since Was would be ahead in division. Tampa wins that tie breaker. Then it would be between Wash/Dal, and we know how that ends.
We need to win out, and have either Wash lose 1, or either Tampa and Carolina lose 2.
Actually, not quite. If we win out, bucs loose 1 and wash win out, then in the three way tie breaker, the first step is eliminate division teams, so wash would get it due to head-to-head sweep of the cowboys. Then it would be bucs vs wash in the wild card tie breaker. At that point, wash would win the breaker due to conference record.
Now, after that, you again compare the remaining tied teams, in this case the bucs and the cowboys. No head to head, so step 2, conference record, which would be the same. Then onto common games, which would be 3-2 each cowboys and bucs. So onto the fourth step we go. That is where it gets a bit cloudy. The tie-breaker is strength of victory. Currently, as of now, dallas is at .438 and the bucs are at .440, but our two remaining teams have better records than their two remaining teams, but not by much, so I am not sure if we can make up that ground. If we can (which it should be close), then we win the breaker and the wild card.
So as I said in an earlier post, i think a more concrete way is to have us win both and skins loose one of two, but I guess it is possible for the bucks to loose one also, and be out. Hope that clears up some of the little nitty gritty details.
Yep. How things change in one week, I was all set to root for the 'Skins this week so that we could capture the NFC East, but now we have to pull for the G-Men to win this week just so we can fit back into the wildcard race.
No, if it's a two-team tiebreaker between Washington and Tampa Bay, the Bucs win based on head-to-head. But in a three-team tiebreaker (if the Vikings also finish 10-6), the Redskins would win based on conference record. We'd then be in a three-way tiebreaker with the Vikings and Bucs, and we should win that based on strength of victory.
I think that the Giants should beat the crap out of Redskins... but the more we wish for that the less chances it is to happen...