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Somali pirates vow to retaliate

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  1. Bonecrusher#31

    Bonecrusher#31 Active Member

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    Somali pirates vow to retaliate

    Apr. 13, 2009 06:47 AM
    Associated Press

    NAIROBI, Kenya - Bracing themselves on a rolling warship in choppy seas, U.S. Navy snipers fired three flawless shots to kill a trio of Somali pirates and free the American sea captain being held at gunpoint, a Navy commander said Monday.
    Angry pirates vowed retaliation for the deaths, raising fears for the safety of some 230 foreign sailors still held hostage in more than a dozen ships anchored off the coast of lawless Somalia.
    "From now on, if we capture foreign ships and their respective countries try to attack us, we will kill them (the hostages)," Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old pirate, told the Associated Press from one of Somalia's piracy hubs, Eyl. "(U.S. forces have) become our No. 1 enemy." OAS_AD('ArticleFlex_1')
    The nighttime operation was a victory for the world's most powerful military, but few experts believed it would quell a rising tide of attacks in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes.
    Interviewed from Bahrain, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command chief Vice Adm. Bill Gortney said the takedown happened shortly after the hostage-takers were observed by sailors aboard the USS Bainbridge "with their heads and shoulders exposed."
    U.S. Defense officials said snipers got the go-ahead to fire after one pirate held an AK-47 so close to Capt. Richard Phillips' back that the weapon appeared to be touching him. Two other pirates popped their heads up, giving snipers three clear targets, one official said.
    The military officials asked not to be named because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the case.
    The Navy released images of the scene from an unmanned drone that showed snipers positioning themselves on the fantail of the USS Bainbridge. The snipers fired simultaneously.
    Asked how the snipers could have killed each pirate with a single shot in the dark, Gortney described them as "extremely, extremely well-trained." He told NBC's "Today" show that the shooting was ordered by the captain of the Bainbridge.
    The SEALS arrived on the scene by parachuting from their aircraft into the sea, and were picked up by the Bainbridge, a senior U.S. official said.
    He said negotiations with the pirates had been "going up and down." The official, asking not to be publicly identified because he, too, was not authorized to discuss this on the record, said the pirates were "becoming increasingly agitated in the rough waters; they weren't getting what they wanted."
    Just as it was getting dark, pirates fired a tracer bullet "toward the Bainbridge," further heightening the sense that the incident was ratcheting up, the official said.
    He said when the time snipers fired, Phillips' hands were bound. Phillips was not hurt in several minutes of gunfire Sunday.
    News of Phillips' rescue caused his crew in Kenya to break into wild cheers and brought tears to the eyes of those in Phillips' hometown of Underhill, Vermont, half a world away from the Indian Ocean drama.
    President Barack Obama called Phillips' courage "a model for all Americans" and said he was pleased with the rescue, but added the United States still needed help from other countries to deal with piracy and to hold pirates accountable.
    The stunning resolution to a five-day standoff came after pirates had agreed to let the USS Bainbridge tow their powerless lifeboat out of rough water.
    A fourth pirate surrendered after boarding the Bainbridge earlier Sunday and could face life in a U.S. prison. He had been seeking medical attention for a wound to his hand, military officials said.
    In a move that surprised the pirates, the U.S.-flagged Maersk Alabama had put up a fight Wednesday when pirates boarded the ship. Until then, Somali pirates had become used to encountering no resistance once they boarded a ship in search of million-dollar ransoms.
    Yet Sunday's blow to their lucrative activities is unlikely to stop pirates, simply because of the size of the vast area stretching from the Gulf of Aden and the coast of Somalia.
    "This could escalate violence in this part of the world, no question about it," said Gortney, the commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command.
    A Somali pirate agreed.
    "Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding a Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, told The Associated Press on Monday. "We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men."
    On Friday, French navy commandos stormed a pirate-held sailboat, the Tanit, in a shootout at sea that killed two pirates and one French hostage and freed four French citizens.
    The pirates still hold about a dozen ships with more than 200 crew members, according to the piracy watchdog International Maritime Bureau. Hostages are from Bulgaria, China, Germany, Indonesia, Italy, Russia, Taiwan, Tuvalu and Ukraine, among other countries.
    Vilma de Guzman, whose husband is one of 23 Filipino sailors held hostage since Nov. 10 on chemical tanker MT Stolt Strength, feared Phillips' rescue may endanger the lives of other hostages.
    "The pirates might vent their anger on them," she said. "Those released are lucky, but what about those who remain captive?"
    She also criticized world media for focusing so much on the U.S. captain but giving little attention to other hostages.
    Aboard the Bainbridge, sailors passed along a message from Andrea Phillips to her husband: "Richard, your family loves you, your family is praying for you, and your family is saving a chocolate Easter egg for you, unless your son eats it first."
    Phillips himself deflected any praise.
    "I'm just the byline. The real heroes are the Navy, the SEALs, those who have brought me home," Phillips said by phone to Maersk Line Limited President and CEO John Reinhart.
    Phillips' 17,000-ton ship docked Saturday with 19 crew in Mombasa, Kenya, and crew there they expected to stay for several days before returning home.
    Chief mate Shane Murphy said spoke to Phillips by telephone Monday. "He's absolutely elated and he could not be prouder of us for doing everything we were trained to do," Murphy said.
    It was not immediately known when or how Phillips return home.
    In Vermont, Maersk spokeswoman Alison McColl choked up as she stood outside the family's house and read their statement.
    "Andrea and Richard have spoken. I think you can all imagine their joy, and what a happy moment that was for them. They're all just so happy and relieved.
    "Andrea wanted me to tell the nation that all of your prayers and good wishes have paid off because Captain Phillips is safe," she said.
    The ship had been carrying food aid bound for Rwanda, Somalia and Uganda when the ordeal began Wednesday hundreds of miles (kilometers) off Somalia's eastern coast. As the pirates clambered aboard and shot in the air, Phillips told his crew to lock themselves in a cabin and surrendered himself to safeguard his men.
    Phillips was then taken hostage in an enclosed lifeboat that was soon shadowed by three U.S. warships and a helicopter. Phillips jumped out of the lifeboat Friday to try to swim to freedom but was recaptured when a pirate fired into the water, according to U.S. [COLOR=#2573c2! important][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#2573c2! important][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Defense [/FONT][COLOR=#2573c2! important][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Department[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] officials.
    Gordon van Hook, the top Maersk official in Mombasa, said the FBI was wrapping its investigation, while the U.S. coast guard was conducting a separate own query and a third-party security firm was inspecting the ship to be sure it was not seriously damaged during the ordeal.
    The surviving fourth pirate is in military custody for the time being.
    Kenya's foreign minister said his country had not received any request from the United States to try the captured pirate but would "consider it on its own merit."
    When the United States captured pirates in 2006, Kenya agreed to try them. Ten pirates were convicted and are serving prison sentences of seven years each.
  2. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Lucky the Congressman from New Jersey didnt get snagged while in Somalia over the weekend..........

    took some motar shelling.......

    Somali terrorists fire mortars at US Congressman’s plane

    Posted by: MataHarley @ 8:54 am in somalia
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    I mentioned in my yesterday post that the Somali hostage event was bringing the piracy situation to a new head. Breaking news this AM… Congressman Donald Payne felt the need to fly down to Mogadishu to “talk” about Somali piracy… only to be forced to turn around after Somali terrorists… er, “overseas contingency operations”… fired mortars at the plane

    .........Now what in the world would lead that guy to take a junket at that time.......with only 6 bodygaurds in tow.......martyrdom?
  3. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    And lose your bargaining chip. Get ready to pay with your life, bucko.
  4. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    The world community needs to hold the Somali government accountable for these actions. There are people getting rich off this and it is not the pirates themselves but those who are calling the shots
  5. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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  6. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    What government? Somali has been taken over by tribal factions and war lords.

    I doubt that country's "government" is in any position to be reasoned with.
  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Very true but then they should come under all out attack for their actions. I'm not one for turning a blind eye because nothing gets accomplished in the end. These lower level people will continue to be used as pirates and if they are killed it is no big deal to the war lords that rule them. I'm for cutting off the head not dealing with the tail.
  8. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    they vow retaliation because we retaliated to their crimes? wow. "you don't play our game, we don't like you!"

    this should be a slam dunk for obama. offer to work with the somali gov and if they show no interest, work with the UN, if they show no interest, take 'em out ourselves. if obama runs the gambit and takes control and shows "no fear" to 3rd world pirates, he can end this crap once and for all.

    it just strikes me funny they play the victim card because we did *not* put up with their games at all. not sure if obama made any calls to get the 3 shot that were put out, but if he did, high 5. you can't let people play that powergame with people's lives out there.
  9. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    this is just big talk from butt-hurt pirates. A dead captive means time and effort wasted..pirates kidnap for money. 1 of two things will happen: 1) Pirates keep on doing what they are doing and don't go out of their way to kill Americans or 2) They just avoid American-flagged vessels all together.
  10. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Only problem I see is if we continue to react to the situations vs these low level thugs or go after the real people behind this.
  11. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    yea, they were given a "warning shot" so to speak when we took out the pirates. they now say they will retaliate but i think that's funny as hell cause that's what *we* had to do *because of their actions*.

    they can talk all they want but in the end they know they're simply no match for the US Navy alone - much less a combined effort of all countries NOT somalia.

    someone told me they're building million $$$ houses on the beaches from the money they get from their piracy. i think we should just tell them they're simply building our targets and blow a few up, giving ample time to evacuate the area before taking out a few.
  12. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Again, there is no government there. I doubt the so called government has reliable control over the city it is quartered in, much less other parts of the country.

    Hopefully, the US military is already working full speed on a plan to hit a couple of these 'pirate ports' with commando raids in force to take out docked motherships and free up some seized shipping. Apply the hammer enough to make it not so enviable a propisiton. Naval interdiction is only going to go so far. Landing Rangers, Seals, and Marines will yield a much more effective 'learning experiance' for the piraticaly inclined.
  13. WarC

    WarC Active Member

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    Theres not really a Somali government, per se. Thats the thing. It is a failed state, where anything goes, and "the law" is just what the local warlord/powerman has in place.
  14. Ren

    Ren Well-Known Member

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    amazing how the can play the victim role after this :eek:
  15. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    The Government in Somali is the war lords take them out, if need be the world community needs to get involved this do nothing attitude is not a solution to anything it is nothing more than turning a blind eye to a rouge country using terrorist tactics against other nations has to end. Only problem I see is this Oh well we can't do anything except react to events after the fact.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    The pirates' inland bases are fairly isolated and would be relatively easy to take out. Some even have just one road in and out from what I hear. Others are kind of out in open desert. I'd love to see a united team go in and start picking them off--group by group.
  17. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Haven't looked into the terrain and logistics, but it sounds doable. And certainly, the Somalis don't have many real friends. While some may be willing to parrot upset at their demise, no one is really that gung ho for them. It's not like they didn't seize a Saudi ship for ransom a few months ago.

    This sort of thing should be on the burner. With care taken that it is done right. Is Petraeus in charge of this region too?
  18. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    What Somalian government would that be?


    Good luck with that.
  19. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Petreaus (By the way I notice that all those idiots that took out that article called BETRAYUS never apologized for it did they) is in charge of CENTCOM so I do believe he is.
  20. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    Does Somalia have an economy?

    Because if they don't... tackling the pirates is going to be a futile practice (unless we are there long term) without them having a legitimate way to spearhead ecomomic growth and development.

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