EDIT: If you have had luck with any Holistic Medical Procedures would you please PM me about them if you don't want to post. Especially if they are related to the back. First of all what I say here is not meant to disparage anyone who works in the medical field. Please get that point straight before reading on. A couple of weeks ago I hurt my back pretty bad at work. I work in an upstairs office. They actually considered using a forklift to get me downstairs to get me downstairs. They were afraid that if I had a spasm on the way down the stairs that I would fall badly. Ultimately I went down the stairs very gingerly with 2 very big guys in front of me and one behind. I was out of work for 3 days and for the next week had to be driven to work and home by my wife. I'm still not back up to par. My truck had a flat tire this morning and I am not in good enough shape to change it, so I had to have my wife bring me to work again. I've been driving her car ( I can't push in the clutch on my truck yet), but she has to be able to get the kids to school. Okay, that's the background of where my thinking starts. My issue with health care is that one reason it is so high is that it is poorly contructed and not very well thought out. The only thing that my health insurance wants to cover is medical bills from a Doctor's Office or hospital. I find that to be silly. Those types of treatments are usually the most expensive kinds. It is my opinion that holistic healing methods need to be covered by insurance. Chiropractic, Massage, Acupuncture. I even believe eye care and dental ought to be covered by every health plan. Right now if you have those things your insurance rates are outrageously high because it is a premium health care package. Those are the things that ought to be the first things covered, not the last. The wait to get in to see a Doctor is often agonizing. Then they want to push drugs and/or surgery. I understand this, but I think that ought to be a last resort, not a first measure. Think about it for a second. What makes more sense for a health care company to cover. A $200 visit to the Doctor's Office, or a $50 visit to a chiropractor? I'm lucky. I have a chiropractor here in town who charges $20 and no appointment is necessary. I can visit him 10 times for the cost of 1 visit to the Doctor's office where I am only going to get a presecription for an expensive drug and I have to pay that copay and prescription. I'm frustrated because the medication prescribed to me (Skelaxon, 800 mg) did not work at all. I mean not an ounce of relief. I actually asked a Doctor on this forum if it was a placebo. That's how bad it was working for me. Last weekend we had family get together's for the easter weekend. The drive to Phoenix just about killed me. Saturday I estimate that I was 30% of how I normally feel. I could barely move. This was 10 days after the injury. My brother-in-law is a Doctor. He took one look at me and knew something was terribly wrong. So I told him the entire story. He got me 2 prescriptions that were affordable and they are working for me. I am finally turning the corner. I am back to between 85% to 90% of normal. Still some tightness in the back, and I do feel very limited right now. I turned down a chance to play golf this weekend with some guys who are hilarious to go play with. That sucks. Okay, back to health care and how this all relates. Health care could be very affordable if it encouraged its clients to use holistic methods to heal first. Now I know this would be a difficult thing to get started. People go to the Emergency room for the stupidest reasons ever and think call the Doctor first. I've seen people badly hurt sitting in an Emergency room while frivilous crap is treated. It doesn't make sense to me at all. You can ask me how I can say that when it is the drugs that helped me this time. My brother-in-law said that acupuncture might have relieved this pressure. I did use chiropractic and depe tissue massage. My health care will not pay for acupncture even though it's only $55. They have no issue paying my Doctor $200, plus part of my prescription price. That just seems backwards to me. It drives up the costs to pay more. Simple economics here. If they would simply fix their current policies, they could lower costs enough that almost every person who has even a low paying job could afford medical insurance. Mark my words, if they simply give it all away our taxes are going to reach astronimical levels to pay for this stuff. You think things are bad now, wait until the Government that none of us trust are in total control of who we can see and how much it will cost. One more gripe and this one goes back many years. After the birth of our youngest daughter we were advised not to have any more children. So we decided that the least invasive method would be for me to get a vasectomy. Do you know what kind of hoops I had to jump through to get that procedure done? First of all they brought me in for a consultation with the Doctor, a physchologist, and someone from my health insurance. I didn't need a consultation, I needed the stupid procedure. I often wonder how much it cost the Insurance for the time all 3 needed to consult with me. It had to be expensive. So the first question they ask me is "does your wife know you are planning to do this?" My response was "what the hell kind of question is that?" It turns out their whole line of questioning was about if what I was doing was taking away my wife's reproductive rights. No joke. I was asked these questions. "If your wife were to die, or you were to get divorced, would you re-marry?" "If you did re-marry and she wanted to have children with you, would you have this procedure reversed?" "Do you realize the cost and pain involved in reversing this procedure if a future wife were to want to have children with you?" "If you decided not to have this procedure reversed what impact do you think that could have on your new wife if you were to re-marry?" Now, I don't know about you, but I find these questions a bit offensive. So I got a little snippy with them. Please do not make this about Pro-life versus Pro-choice. I asked them this... "Are you telling me that my wife could get an abortion without my consent, but I can't get a vasectomy without hers?" The answer was "yes." I kid you not. What in the bloody hell is sensible about that answer? I wish I could answer that, but I can't. They also wanted me to re-think my decision and talk my wife into having a hysterectomy instead. That is a far more invasive and expensive procedure than a vasectomy. Their reasoning? I should think about the feelings of that future wife, if my current wife were to die or we were to get divorced. I don't know about how you folks feel, but I am very much in favor of a lot of men getting vasectomies if they have no intentions of being father figures to the children they are creating and leaving to a single Mom to raise. Unload the damned guns. I think we need free vasectomy clinics and no I am not joking. If a man decides he never wants to have children, shouldn't he have that right? If I were a single man with no intentions of getting married I would like to think I could go get that procedure done and remove the worry of an unwanted pregnancy. Now, I am not condoning unprotected sex by saying this. I still think both partners should be protected against STDs. But come on, do we need any more unwanted kids in this country? That is a vicious cycle that we need desperately to get out of. All it does is create more poverty and welfare issues which adds to the whole problem to begin with and makes it all so aggravating. All right, I'll get off my soapbox. Excuse my rant.