Sources: US nears removing NKorea from terror list

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  1. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    Kind of find the timing odd as I thought I saw this morning or yesterday morning that NKorea tested/launched a few 5 missiles.

    By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer Fri Oct 10, 6:29 AM ET

    WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is nearing a decision to remove North Korea from a terrorism blacklist and may do so as early as Friday in a bid to salvage faltering nuclear disarmament talks, The Associated Press has learned.

    U.S. officials said Thursday that no final decision had been made but diplomats briefed on the matter told the AP that they believe an announcement that North Korea will be tentatively taken off the State Department's list of state sponsors of terrorism is imminent.

    The delisting depends on North Korea agreeing to a plan to verify an account of its nuclear activity that it submitted over the summer, the diplomats said. North Korea would be put back on the list if it doesn't comply with the plan and abandon nuclear arms, they said.

    The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of an expected announcement, which would follow meetings last week in Pyongyang between North Korean officials and U.S. envoy Christopher Hill as well as days of intense debate in Washington.

    The move would be a last-ditch attempt to save a disarmament agreement that has frayed badly in recent months as North Korea moves to restart its main nuclear plant and takes other provocative steps such as expelling U.N. inspectors and launching short-range missiles.

    Saving the deal and getting Pyongyang to follow through would also be a major foreign policy success for the administration in its waning months.

    But opponents of the deal, mainly conservative hawks in and out of the administration, say removing the North from the terrorism list now would be a reward for bad behavior from a country that cannot be trusted.

    North Korea had disabled its Yongbyon nuclear facility under the initial phases of the deal but since August has been reversing that because the United States has not removed it from the terror list as it agreed after North Korea provided a declaration of its atomic program in June.

    The U.S. has said it will fulfill the obligation only when North Korea accepts a plan to verify that accounting.

    But while he was in North Korea, Hill proposed a face-saving compromise under which the North would be provisionally removed from the terrorism list as soon as it deposits with China an agreement on verification, according to U.S. officials.

    China, the chair of the six-nation nation negotiations, would then announce that the North Koreans were on board, allowing Pyongyang to claim that Washington moved first, they said.

    Despite signs the delisting is close, details of what North Korea is prepared to allow in terms of inspections of its nuclear sites are unclear. The specifics of Hill's discussions with the North are closely held in Washington among a tight circle of top Bush aides, officials said.

    White House press secretary Dana Perino said agreement on a "verification protocol" remained the key to taking North Korea off the list. "If we can get a verification protocol that we are satisfied with, then we would be able to fulfill our side of the bargain," she said.

    Later, amid a swirl of speculation in Washington, Seoul and Tokyo that the delisting would come on Friday, National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe would say only that "no final decision has been made yet."
  2. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    That seems like a good idea considering just yesterday they said they are firing up the reactors we paid them to shut down.

    Up is down, down is up. Whatever goes I guess.:bang2:
  3. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    Yes as I said...seems to be odd timing at the very least.
  4. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    Has the little big haired dictator ever started showing up again.

    There was some big thing a week or so ago that he might be gravely ill because he was nowhere to be seen or something.

    The guy is nuts but you gotta give him some points for that crazy hair. :laugh2:
  5. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I saw one report that said the propped him up strapped to a gurney in a public appearance a couple of days ago.

  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    Like weekend at bernies? :laugh2:
  7. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    If this is being done because N Korea is attemting to join the international community as a legitimate nation ..... this is a very good thing.

    These Nations that have historically been considered barbaric should be rewarded when they start behaving civilized.

    Hopefully ,if its true, Nations like Iran will take notice.
  8. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Winter is Coming Staff Member

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    You know I have read the reports that N.Korea is in really bad shape and the people are starving and so on.

    It just blows my mind because S.Korea, at least not in the larger cities, was not in the best shape when I was there. I mean there was some pretty bad living conditions for many in small villiages and in the summer you went out and the whole area smelled like crap because of the rice fields and using human fertilizer.

    Just boggles the mind to think it could be so bad in N.Korea.

    Always make you thankful for what you got here, even if it is not a great deal.
  9. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I spent 2 weeks in China and South Korea last summer.
    My son and I practice Tae Kwon Do and went with out Master to see his homeland. We toured many temples and spared in several tournaments while there. They definitely have a much lower standard of living than even the "poor" in the US. It was an eye opening trip to say the least.

    I have a little idea of what N. Korea is like after spending time in China. Africa and Australia are the two major continents I have left to visit. I love traveling. It is very educational.
  10. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    Last I checked, North Korea spends 25% of its GDP on defense/military.

    There is a reason their people are starving.

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