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*SPOILERS*The Walking Dead Season 4– First half of season

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by MichaelWinicki, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. Angus12

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    It's a show that features zombies. You're going to have to expect some reaches. If you are expecting real life realism, I don't know what to say.
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    No... I don't expect realism. LOL!

    If I did, I wouldn't be watching the show. ;)
  3. Angus12

    Angus12 Active Member

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    Ahhh, ok. You kinda threw me off with this comment.

  4. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    I expect a certain amount of realism, within the boundaries of that "World". I mean... I expect a Dodge Charger that's mowing down zombies left and right to not "all of the sudden" get the real wheels "Stuck" on a 3 foot pile of undead.

    But I don't expect everyone to go around complaining about the smell for 55 minutes of every episode (and not just the smell of death, I mean c'mon... people gotta be stinking pretty bad at this point).
  5. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling about the black guy that was going on the run with Daryl. Not Tyrese, the guy that was surprised he was invited to go.
  6. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    You cant trust him. He was a drug dealer on The Wire.
  7. CowboyGil

    CowboyGil Well-Known Member

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    The thing that got me was when Rick was 'investigating' the burning of the bodies, he found what looked like a bloody smear left by a hand on the lower part of the doorway. So one or both were possibly alive when Carol burned them? Disturbing twist.
  8. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That comment was more about the topic in general... i.e. movies/shows featuring the undead in total.

    The bloody smear was Carol's hand print.

    No... I would be 99% sure they were dead when she burned them. As shown previously, she's mastered "the knife blade through the skull and into the brain" kill. I would bet that it was the exact method she used to do the deed.

    And of course they bleed and she was covered in it.
  9. Rack Bauer

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    Even w/o the blood, you could tell they were dead before she burned them. There was no sign of struggle. The bodies were laying flat on their backs. If I were burned alive I don't think I'd lie down (literally) and take it.
  10. stasheroo

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    Anyone else getting a bit tired of using a random herd as their storyline impetus for big changes?

    This would mark the third time they use a random herd to simply push the cast in a new direction and I think that trick has run its course.

    I would like to see more creative thinking.

    And I for one, have no interest in this sickness storyline.
  11. Phoenix

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    Ah, to have Romero take a stab at an episode or two...sigh....

    http://www.blastr.com/2013-10-31/romero-blasts-walking-dead-being-too-much-soap-opera

    Romero blasts Walking Dead for being too much of a 'soap opera'


    Here’s an excerpt from the interview:

    “They asked me to do a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead but I didn’t want to be a part of it. Basically it’s just a soap opera with a zombie occasionally. I always used the zombie as a character for satire or a political criticism and I find that missing in what’s happening now.”
  12. Rack Bauer

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    Well I think the point is the Zombies aren't the "Herd" but are actually the Herders. The "Living" are the ones getting herded.
  13. iceberg

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    they are 2 very different approaches and i can't blame them for not working together. romero was always after mankind being stupid and zombies being gory.

    twd is about how people deal with living in that kind of world.

    if twd is too much of a soap opera, romero was just too much ... stupid.
  14. Stryker44

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    I doubt Carol would have the physical strength to drag each of them through the doorway against their will, so I think they were already dead.

    Now if it was someone Tyrese's size that did the killing, I could see what you are saying.
  15. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    When you're trying to fill as much air-time as what they are with a TV series, the "soap opera" aspect is going to come about. You can't simply have zombies chasing people for 60-minutes every episode. At some point deeper character development is going to come about.

    In a 90 minute movie... Yeah you can get away with what George is saying.
  16. stasheroo

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    I see your point, as I feel the living are in fact, the walking dead the title refers to.

    But the repetitive use of the herds as agents of change is just getting old with me.

    Give me a different reason, or at least a better, more clarified reason for change rather than this.

    It would be nice to start to see some bigger ideas come into play. They have an entire world of possibilities they can use.
  17. stasheroo

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    Romero sounds jealous of this show gaining the success and making the money that he never could.

    He had a great original idea, but could never property capitalize on it.

    Heck, he even managed to screw up the rights deal on the first one!
  18. Stryker44

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    Romero to the Walking Dead is much like the converse of horror/suspense directors Alfred Hitchcock and John Carpenter to most modern "scary movies"

    While it usually isn't true...sometimes the second version of an idea (remake) is better, as in the case of the Walking Dead.
  19. Rack Bauer

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    The really messed up part is how they haven't put in any effort at obtaining more powerful firepower. I mean... I 50CAL will end a herd of zombies in about 10 seconds. They wouldn't be that difficult to get either. THere's abandoned military vehicles all over the place. And they could probably get more powerful weapons than a 50 cal too.

    Or forget weapons... what about a bulldozer? Do some fabricating and put some metal spikes on the "Shovel" end of it and BAM, you've cleared out 50+ zombies like nothing.
  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Different.

    Each is great in it's own way.

    The original "Dawn" is rated 8 out of 10 on IMDb. That's pretty high praise.

    And the tension in "Day" is in my opinion higher than what we've seen in any "TWD" episode.

    Again, if Romero had to fill 16 hours of programming, he would need to do what they are doing in "TWD".

    Actually Romero had praise for the first season of "TWD" under Darabont. And from a story aspect, I think the first season was superior to what we've seen since.

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