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Sporting News - Draft Dish

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by BigDave95, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. BigDave95

    BigDave95 Member

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    In the final week before the draft, scouts, GMs and coaches meet to debate (argue?) the players and set their team's final draft board. And as personnel people break out of those meetings, word spreads about prospects and anticipated trades and picks. Here is some of what we're hearing:

    **Texas quarterback Vince Young now seems to be a solid top-five pick. The Raiders, who sit at No. 7, are exploring ways to trade up and get Young.
    As we mentioned last week, Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow apparently is losing the quarterback debate in Tennessee. Chow prefers Southern California quarterback Matt Leinart, but rumor has it that the Titans instead will take Young at No. 3.

    **Outside linebackers are taking a hit, as expected. Now that it appears as if N.C. State's Manny Lawson and Florida State's Kamerion Wimbley can make the transition from college defensive end to NFL outside linebacker, players such as Iowa's Chad Greenway, Alabama's DeMeco Ryans and UTEP's Thomas Howard are sliding down teams' draft boards.
    Greenway, Ryans and Howard are complete players but lack the pass-rush ability of Lawson and Wimbley, a key in the 3-4 scheme that is being used more and more by NFL teams. Look for Lawson and Wimbley to both go in the top 15, bumping Greenway and Ryans to the bottom of Round 1. Howard could slide into the middle of Round 2.

    **Two players who seem to have secured top-10 positions are Florida State defensive tackle Broderick Bunkley and Southern California offensive tackle Winston Justice. Both tested extremely well on the pre-draft circuit and have great athletic ability. Most teams project Buffalo to take Bunkley at No. 8, and Justice could fit nicely with Arizona at No. 10 but certainly won't fall past Baltimore at No. 13.

    **Several defensive backs are moving into the first round. Florida State cornerback Antonio Cromartie had to prove he could play after missing the '05 season with a knee injury. His 4.37-second 40-yard dash and his strong performance in position drills seem to have done that. He now is entrenched in the top 20 and could be selected as high as No. 15 (Denver).

    **South Carolina cornerback Jonathan Joseph quietly has been moving up the board and now looks to be a solid first-round selection. The Dolphins, Chargers, Chiefs and Bears all could take a cornerback in the first round.

    **Two versatile defensive backs -- Ohio State's Donte Whitner and Tennessee's Jason Allen -- have moved into the first round, too. Whitner can play cornerback or either safety spot and excels in run support.
    Allen, who can play cornerback or free safety, is coming off a hip injury but showed in pre-draft workouts that he still has blazing speed. We expect a run on safeties at the top of Round 2, but Whitner and Allen both could be gone by then. Pittsburgh, at No. 32, certainly would look hard if Whitner and/or Allen is/are available at the end of Round 1.

    **Finally, it appears as if Southern California running back LenDale White's best move has been to lay low and keep quiet. After putting off workouts and then performing poorly, all indications were that White clearly had dropped out of the first round. However, many teams are desperate for a big, tough between-the-tackles runner and there are few to be had in this draft. The result? White probably is back in the first-round picture and could be drafted in the 20s.
  2. RealCowboyfan

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
  3. bbgun

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    That would be very, very bad.
  4. RealCowboyfan

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    :horse:
  5. DiscipleofTuna

    DiscipleofTuna New Member

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    Several defensive backs are moving into the first round. Florida State cornerback Antonio Cromartie had to prove he could play after missing the '05 season with a knee injury. His 4.37-second 40-yard dash and his strong performance in position drills seem to have done that. He now is entrenched in the top 20 and could be selected as high as No. 15:laugh2:
  6. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Meh, we would still pick up Carpenter there.
  7. Pokes28

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    And you know. For every player that moves up a draft board, there is one that moves down.

    David Harrell - Pokes
    dwh
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    I would be fine with Carpenter. I want Lawson because I think he has more upside- but Carpenter can step right in and play.
  9. jksmith269

    jksmith269 Proud Navy Veteran 1990-1995

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    Not only Chow but also HC Jeff Fisher wants Matt the main one wanting Young is the GM who has the final decision in their draft room. I still think Matt will go to TN and Young slip to Oakland.
  10. ddh33

    ddh33 Active Member

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    Exactly! Someone will fall because someone always falls. If Dallas is telling the truth about selecting the best player available (and I think they are), then we'll be fine. Besides, there's no real guarantee that Dallas is staying at 18 even if some of those players are there.
  11. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Well the GM may be keeping in mind what they will have to give up to get Leinart. Sure, most people would prefer Leinart to Young, but at what cost? They're going to have to outbid the Jets to get him.
  12. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    If Lawson and Wimbley are gone(which just because TSN says doesn't make it true when Rick, Kiper, Kirwan aren't saying that yet.) and the Cowboys pick Carpenter then fine they took the best guy available and think he can play the SOLB in the 3-4 afterall. Who knows they may trade out of the first if that happens.
  13. jswalker1981

    jswalker1981 Fact > Your Opinion

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    Oh NOO! I guess we will have to take Bobby Carpenter! what a shame. (hint the sarcasm)
  14. bbgun

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    As a white guy, I'm allowed to make this observation: white guys make lousy outside linebackers in the pros, be it 3-4 or 4-3. Kevin Greene? Fine. But the vast majority of elite performers at that position are black. I will not consider Carpenter to be a satisfactory consolation prize if Lawson and Wimbley are gone.
  15. Rack Bauer

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    Yeah but if all three were on board we would have the option of trading down just a little bit and still get one of them, possibly adding a 3rd.


    I don't think Wimbley AND Lawson will go in the top 15. One of them likely will though.
  16. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think its body types. The rangy, tall guys seem to fit the 3-4 outside spots better and the shorter, thick bodied guys usually move inside.
  17. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    oh boy here we go with the race arguments....:banghead:
  18. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Yeah, I've ofted stated that if all three are there we'll probably trade down knowing that we can get AT LEAST one of them sometime later. I'd prefer not to do that because I wouldn't want to "get cute" as another poster succinctly put it. I dont' think they'll both be gone by 15 either. Possibly one, but certainly not both.
  19. CrazyCowboy

    CrazyCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Agree.....I don't like the sound of that.
  20. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    MMM let's see... we could say this about RBs, WRs, DBs

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