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Starting defensive line

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by gimmesix, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    They have not cut Brent.
  2. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think you mean Josh Brent.
  3. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Current depth chart

    SLB: Albright, Wilber, Spencer
    SDE: Spencer, Crawford, Hatcher
    NT: Ratliff, Brent, Lissemore
    3T: Hatcher, Ratliff, Lissemore
    WDE: Ware, Spencer, Wilber

    This is what I am getting at in terms of flex.

    Despite the moral outrage I like keeping Brent.
  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    yeah i will edit
  5. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    Who said Spencer will be a DE, I wouldn't be surprised to see him a SOLB in the 4-3
  6. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Well, they did franchise him as a linebacker, but I don't see it. His best fit in this scheme is DE.
  7. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    If, IF Brian Price gets healthy he might just be our 3 technique......or a first round selection.
  8. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    That's probably fairly accurate, except I don't see Brent ahead of Lissemore. This scheme relies on the quickness of its linemen, and Lissemore has more than Brent.

    If Crawford is viewed as a strongside end, I could see keeping Brent. If not, I think we'll end up adding depth at DE and cutting Brent.
  9. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I "think" that the Franchise tag is always based on the position from the previous year.
  10. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I don't think so.
  11. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Yes, I just read that in an Associated Press story, so it really doesn't mean anything as far as where Spencer will play this year. I'm positive it will be end, though.
  12. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think Brent fits in well at the 1 at least on run downs. He may have to go on some non injury list given his situation.
  13. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Ware is a great player. But will he be 100% He struggled late season.

    Ratliff and Hatcher are mediocre players. You could almost consider them journeymen. They have played good enough for us to anoint them as icons but not good enough to start for most rational teams.
    Spencer has been a one-year wonder last season. That is his claim to fame.

    Before we get too fired up about this defense, pls remember that as much as we'd all like to think this will be a good line, it won't. Lee will provide backup and quickness. Beyond that, don't get your hopes u. Remember, the NFL is a quick-pass league now. By the time Rat and Hatch shed their blockers, the receiver will be doing chest bumps downfield.

    Behind that so-so line, we'll probably have bad (or rookie) safeties and Carr and Claiborne learning the new scheme.

    The offense will have to carry the load. And playing catch-up is not our forte.

    My dream for next season is 10-6, as it was last year.

    The reality is that little will change and we'll be an 8-8 team again, barring injuries. With injuries, we'll be a lock to get into the 2014 top 10 draft picks.

    For the rebuilding to begin.
  14. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    It's a good starting defensive line, but yeah, depth is needed.
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    If we keep spencer this year (no sign and trade) then we have very good bookends at DE.

    Those whining about Ware ought to try and play in the NFL with about 3/4 of one arm when you count both his shoulder injury and elbow injury. Shoulder injury meant he was done to about 1/2 an arm on one side and that elbow meant the other was about 1/4 of an arm.

    Rat is declining but should still be good in spurts. Platooning like the Giants do is a MUST. We have to keep guys fresh.

    Inside we should be in good shape; my worry is who is going to spell spencer and ware.
  16. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Israel Idonije from the Bears would make sense if he's cheap enough as a pass rusher. Crawford could take some snaps away from Spencer.

    Idonije is coming off of 7.5 sacks and was on a 1yr 2.5 million contract.

    6-6 275 32yr old
  17. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    I think you undervalue these players.

    Hatcher is not the same player he was two years ago. He has become a legitimate NFL starter.

    Ratliff already has proven himself to be a top-notch DT, but health does have to be a concern.

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