Stephen Jones is a terrible negotiator

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Zordon, May 9, 2014.

  1. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    Why does this keep happening to us?

    Seriously somebody please tell me what the hell Stephen Jones contributes to this organization???

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  2. Fmart322

    Fmart322 Well-Known Member

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    I hate it too. Always getting shorted by our trade partners.
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  3. udas

    udas Active Member

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    It was the cost of trading with a division rival.
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  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    The point differential when you are the "wantor" rather than the "wantee".

    I'm sure the Redskins weren't desperate to trade the pick.
  5. NorthTexan95

    NorthTexan95 Well-Known Member

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    I'd bet Washington had more than one offer to trade.
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  6. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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  7. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Was there a trade?
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  8. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    People still are beholden to that draft value chart?
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  9. Wolf2k5

    Wolf2k5 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows these trades aren't in Madden right? Values are not gna be exact every time. Plus it was div rival. I would have rather not given to Skins but if you got a first round grade on a guy at a possition of need and an opportunity to get him you do it.
  10. canters

    canters Well-Known Member

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    If he plays well, the over pay issue will be forgotten...after seeing his highlight film, I worry more about off-the field issues more than production.
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  11. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Last year we only get a 3rd rounder to move back half of the first round, this year we give up a 3rd rounder to move up 13 spots...... IN THE SECOND ROUND !!!!!

    How are they gonna spin this one ????
  12. davey999

    davey999 Well-Known Member

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    How do people defend this trade?
  13. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    When you trade inside the division you are most likely going to have to pay a premium. If he is the player they think he is the points dont mean squat.
  14. Wolf2k5

    Wolf2k5 Well-Known Member

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    You're getting logic on everyone's crybaby cake...
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  15. honyock

    honyock Well-Known Member

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    The tough thing about the trade is that the Jimmy Johnson chart (the one your numbers come from) is going to be the kindest to the Cowboys on this trade of all the charts floating around out there. The Jimmy chart values higher picks more than the other charts do.

    So according to the other charts, the trade is going to look even worse value wise from the Cowboys end.

    Like others are saying, I like the player, and if they had a first round grade on him, I understand wanting him here. I hope he's a beast. I hope I'm ecstatic about this trade in two years. But that was really expensive. It really plays against the idea to diversify your risks and give yourself as many rolls at the table as possible.
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  16. boysfan69

    boysfan69 Member

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    as usual Dallas the short end of the stick and why the trade we need more help not lees this is not the way to get thing done
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  17. davey999

    davey999 Well-Known Member

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    I know. Why doubt with our obvious draft acumen?
  18. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    I heard on the radio that last year both Dallas and SF "lost" on points on their own respective charts. Means nothing.
  19. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Well, I believe the Cowboy's chart has it in favor of Dallas to the tune of about a 5th round pick.
  20. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    no but a 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. i'm not expecting the full 70 points back but at least get a 6th or even 7th back for God's sakes. is this too much to ask from your lead negotiator who contributes nothing else to the organization?

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