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Stephen Jones: Jerry Jones still heavily involved in Dallas Cowboys’ personnel decisions

Discussion in 'News Zone' started by Alexander, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Staff Member

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  2. nake

    nake Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I think if anyone is wondering how Jerry will go out, Al Davis would be a pretty good template, although that doesn't mean he can't live out his years with grace and dignity and do some good things with the team. Jerry, like Al, has had so much power for so long it is part of his being.

    I personally would trust Stephen more if he called Jerry "my dad" instead of "Jerry". I've never known anyone who called their father by his first name.
  3. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    Um, except he generally DOESN'T overrule the coaching staff or scouting department, and the very fact that he isn't the one breaking down film and making those personnel suggestions (which eventually come to fruition) is further proof that his GM title is merely a title.

    Henry Melton was a Rod Marinelli-endorsed idea and Stephen did the contract... but Jerry will get all the blame if that signing fails. Why? Because he's the easy target, that's why. Toss logic and reason out the window when it comes to fans' Jerry-hatred.
  4. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Benched

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    He does this every draft the most recent example was drafting Escobar. Jerry's actually the poster child for this.
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  5. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Benched

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    And toss logic and reasoning out the window for those with blind homerisim. If you don't think Jerry's responsible for the mess of this team, well, you must be Jerry.
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  6. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    You forgot deaf and dumb.
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  7. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Well, I think it's the professional thing to do to refer to his dad by name when talking to the media. I don't have a problem with it.
  8. jday

    jday Well-Known Member

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    The one line of this article that meant the most to me: "Obviously we’ll be looking in the draft as well to help us out."
  9. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    Oh good lord... you're beyond all help.

    ONE signing gets made where the guy says Jerry wasn't involved, and you think it justifies your delusion that Jerry is just a figurehead. GM is merely a title... LOL Go sell that load somewhere else.
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  10. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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  11. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    One signing? If you paid any attention to your favorite team you'd know that Stephen does ALL the contracts now.

    And since it's already been established that Jerry's not the one poring over film and evaluating talent, that means the scouting isn't Jerry's doing either.

    Doesn't do the scouting. Doesn't do the contracts.

    Do the math, if you're capable. Simple arithmetic.
  12. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    So the only thing involved in the GMs duties with personnel is film scouting and contracts? Gotcha.
  13. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    It really seems increasingly evident nowadays that Stephen Jones is heavily involved in the preservation of Papa Jerry's image.
  14. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Too many former associates have all said Jerry is a great guy and listens to everyone.

    Then when there is a dispute he makes the final call.

    Several things.

    1. When would there not be a dispute since both sides of the ball want different things? Rarely. I cannot imagine an offensive line coach is promoting a defensive tackle in a meeting because he sees the vision.

    2. Jerry wasn't there? So there is this device called a telephone. Some people even have ones they carry around and make calls from just about anywhere but the South Pole. So Jerry being there isn't a requisite for Jerry having input. Did Jerry delegate the choir of acquiring Melton to anyone not in his inner circle?

    And just FYI, Garrett is not in that inner circle unless Jerry sired a redheaded step-child.

    Which would answer so many questions.

    A few weeks ago there was an article here and Jerry stated without any qualms that he is the eye of the storm and the decision maker on this team. Even the new guy who is tasked with creating a competitive team said his main job is

    ...to get everyone on the same page so Jerry can make the call.

    I said then in that thread - that was moved because of the usual whining by some - that this will come up in a few weeks when another article comes out and is vague about the final decision resting in the shaky hands of Jerry-atric Jones.

    All I have to say is this.

    Madame Cleo ain't got nothing on me.

    Stop rewriting history.
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  15. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    Those are HUGE parts of the job, dude.
  16. burmafrd

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    I think nav22 is Charlotte.
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  17. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    They are huge parts of the job for most GMs. They're not for Jerry. He delegates the film study because he can't do it. He delegates the contracts so Stephen has something to do.

    So you acknowledge that he doesn't study film on draft prospects... Does he have final say on who to draft? By his own admission, he does. Do you think that's right? Do you think that it's right that the scouts who put months and months of time in studying film and watching the prospects play in person can be overruled by a GM who doesn't do those things? Or does it make you feel good that the loudest coach or scout on draft day can convince Jerry to go off the draft board? Do those things give you confidence in the GMs abilities?
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  18. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    Ding! Ding! Ding!!

    Tell him what he's won, Johnny,..............
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  19. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    Nice!! Preach it brother Pep!!
  20. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    I have no reason to believe Jerry regularly does any of those things. But since it sounds like you're convinced that Jerry's regularly vetoing the scouts and coaches, I'll assume that you have an abundance of evidence to prove this perception of yours is accurate. I'm all ears.

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