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News: *** T.O. Breaking News CONTINUED ***Out of Hospital

Discussion in 'News Zone' started by Reality, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Daniel Synder

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    I believe the police report before i'll believe any written statement and/or publicist after the fact. I work as a 911 dispatcher and I know (most of the time) especially in a high profile case like this, they do thorough investigations at the scene. They police report has no motive or reason to be biased. If he did in fact take 35 pills and continue to down them even after someone advised him to stop, this was a suicide attempt.

    On a football level i hate the guy. but on a human level i hope he gets himself str8 and finds some peace. he may need to step away from the spotlight for a little while. it seems to have gotten the better of him.
  2. fanfromvirginia

    fanfromvirginia Inconceivable!

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    Yeah, okay, based on this info and Cobra's posts, this certainly doesn't seem to be a police report as it is understood. I think you're probably right on that and not splitting hairs.

    According to the reporter who broke the story (and please don't ask me to go find that link), he found out about the story because the police published this narrative in whatever way they normally published whatever these things are. And that's why everybody has jumped all over this -- because the police put it out there.

    I get your point, though. I'm mostly with you. Good avatar, btw, I gotta get me one one of these days.
  3. fanfromvirginia

    fanfromvirginia Inconceivable!

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    What about Cobra's argument that the doc that's been published is more of a "narrative" than a police report?
  4. Stautner

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    I admit that I haven't been reading everything available on the TO injury, but "tremendous pain" and "he may play Sunday" don't seem to go hand in hand.'

    Besides, the tremendous pain may have only been for a day or two after the surgery.

    Judging from the many times me and my family have had injuries and medical procedures that resulted in the prescription of a pain medication, I think it's fair to say that the pills are often a precaution and not a necessity - at least not the full prescription. It's rare that we have ever needed pain medication for more than a few days.
  5. wileedog

    wileedog Well-Known Member

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    Multiple sources have said he has not had his stomach pumped or vomited.

    If he gulped down 35 pills last night he would be dead, not giving a press conference in an hour.

    Something is wrong about the police report, intentionally or otherwise.
  6. Yakuza Rich

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    I just about guarantee they will say:

    1) Owens isn't happy in Dallas

    2) He doesn't like playing for Parcells

    3) He doesn't like not being the center of attention.

    Then they'll say that it's way too fishy for it not to be an attempted suicide.


    Then if time goes by and it's even more proven not to be an attempted suicide, they'll blame Dallas and then later on the NFL for the way the rush players through injury and have them take pain killers in order to do so.

    And then there'll be some reports claiming that Owens somehow did this on purpose to gain sympathy or that he just can't keep the spotlight off himself.



    YAKUZA
  7. mrecktid

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    "Etheredge said Owens did not have his stomach pumped at the hospital and did not vomit, as was initially reported by several local news affiliates."

    Doesn't that rule out an overdose of pills???

    Per Mickey Spagnola
  8. Cochese

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    A police report includes a lengthly narrative of what occured, what witnesses said, etc.
  9. Daniel Synder

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    i just tuned into the story becuase i just woke up from midnight shift so you guys i'm sure know more than me. i'm just going off of what i have read on ccn.com, espn.com and this site. i'll probably won't check back in until tomorrow when a little more of this is str8end out. but chances are, by tomorrow it will be a bigger mess.
  10. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I totally agree. People are misdiagnosed all the time and given the wrong mediation for illnesses, I've also seen it. I read your post wrong, I just thought you were saying that people are faking it, and that bothers me cause alot of people just think people are acting and can just stop it if they want to.

    Obviously from this post, I can tell you don't fit in that group, sorry.
  11. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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  12. Stautner

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    You still have the wrong idea about the police report. The 35 pills was info that was told to them by the female in the apartment - it was not meant as a set in stone fact.

    The police report is only an outline of what they observed and were told by witnesses and is not meant as a definitive conclusion that negates the need for an investigation.

    The police report was not wrong, but perhaps the information given to the police was innacurate.
  13. Yakuza Rich

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    He could have downed 35 pills and still be alive. However, he would have to have an extraordinary tolerance for the pills, something that comes from years and years of pill abuse.....something that Owens has a reputation of having the direct opposite of.

    So unless he's led some secret life as a pill head that nobody knows about, the only way he would be alive after downing 35 painkillers is to throw them up which according to reports his stomach was neither pumped nor did he throw up.

    And even if he did throw them up and even if he was a long time pill head that nobody knows about, there's still a good chance that he dies from taking 35 pills.

    In other words, I think it's quite plausible to throw the 35 pills taken theory out the window.


    YAKUZA
  14. CrazyCowboy

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    I hope he does not play Sun and we just concentrate on getting TO better both mentally and physically.

    Go Hurd!
  15. cobra

    cobra Salty Bastard

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    Yes.

    But look at a police report. The narrative section of a police report does not look like that. And it is not some independent document.
  16. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    Even police said that the initial report wasn't set in stone.



    YAKUZA
  17. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    unless your hatred needs it to be - then it's gospel.

    funny how that works.
  18. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    They could have used charcol. Some have said they did.
  19. mrecktid

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    Oh I see, didn't see anyone mention it before, but then again I wasn't reading every page of these threads :)
  20. theebs

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    Police say T.O. tried to kill himself, publicist says it's not true

    By JAIME ARON, AP Sports Writer
    September 27, 2006

    AP - Sep 27, 11:42 am EDT
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    DALLAS (AP) -- Flamboyant Dallas Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens flashed a thumbs-up as he left a hospital Wednesday, hours after the release of a police report saying he tried to kill himself by overdosing on pain medication.

    A confusing series of events swirled around T.O. with few answers.

    Police and fire officials held news conferences to say they couldn't talk because of privacy issues. Owens planned to talk publicly at team headquarters later Wednesday afternoon, and the Cowboys went about their business without their No. 1 receiver for now.

    Former Cowboys star Deion Sanders said he talked to Owens and the receiver "laughed at that notion" of it being a suicide attempt. He added that Owens was in good spirits.

    "It was a case that medication that was taken wasn't accepted well in his system with the other vitamins he's on," Sanders told the NFL Network, where he works as an analyst.

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    Dallas coach Bill Parcells said he didn't know any details, other than it was "apparently an unfortunate set of circumstances." He said it was too early to tell whether Owens might be able to practice this week or even play Sunday against Tennessee.

    "I don't have enough information yet," he said. "I wouldn't (decide) anything right now. I'm talking with a good deal of ignorance on the subject."

    The series of events began a little before 8 p.m. Tuesday.

    Owens' publicist, Kim Etheredge, said she was at Owens' home when he took pain medicine for his broken right hand. Concerned by how he began acting, Etheredge said in various interviews Wednesday with Dallas-area media that she called 911. Owens was taken to a hospital, with Etheredge saying it was an allergic reaction to the medicine.

    But early Wednesday, several media outlets received a police report -- that had yet to be released by the authorities -- saying Owens had attempted suicide by overdosing on the painkillers, even putting two more pills into his mouth after an unidentified friend intervened.

    The police document, first reported by WFAA-TV, said Owens was asked by rescue workers "if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time (he) stated, `Yes."'

    When officially released by police, about half the document was blacked out, including the phrases "attempting suicide by prescription pain medication" and "a drug overdose," as well as the details of Owens having two pills pried from his mouth and Owens saying "Yes" when asked if he intended to harm himself.

    Etheredge, who said she was the friend cited in the police document, told Dallas-area media Wednesday that the police got the story wrong.

    The tape of the 911 call could help clear things up. The Associated Press filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act to get its contents, but fire department officials said it would not be available before late Wednesday.


    AP - Sep 27, 11:37 am EDT
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    Etheredge did not immediately respond to repeated calls and e-mails from The Associated Press. She, Sanders and agent Drew Rosenhaus were with Owens at his home and presumably would be joining him at team headquarters.

    Police Lt. Rick Watson said during a brief news conference that he could only confirm paramedics called police to say they were taking Owens to the hospital. He said no more details would come from the police because no laws were broken.

    "This is a high-profile person. We looked into it, and we determined it is not a criminal offense," Watson said. "This a medical type of situation that occurred."

    At the police news conference, Watson released the version of the police narrative with certain sections blacked out. The full report was obtained by several news outlets and reported first by WFAA. The AP received the full version from WFAA.

    The friend, who is not identified in the report but whom Etheredge later said is her, "noticed that (his) prescription pain medication was empty and observed (Owens) putting two pills in his mouth," the police report said. The friend attempted to pry them out with her fingers.

    The report also said the friend told rescue workers that a prescription for 40 pills was filled on Sept. 18, and that Owens "had only taken five pills up to this date."

    According to the police report, Dallas Fire and Rescue was called Tuesday evening regarding someone "attempting suicide by prescription pain medication." Officers arrived to find Owens being stabilized by ambulance workers, who then took him to Baylor University Medical Center, where the police report said he was treated "for a drug overdose."

    Owens, one of the league's top receivers during his 11-year NFL career, is best known for wild stunts on the field and other publicity-seeking antics off it.

    When the Cowboys signed him to a $25 million, three-year deal in March, they said their background checks indicated no red flags. In fact, team consultant Calvin Hill -- who mostly deals with troubled players -- said during training camp that his department was not involved with Owens because he didn't have a history of those kinds of problems.

    He missed most of training camp, and three of four preseason games, because of a hamstring injury. He was late for work during his recovery and was fined for it, but Owens laughed it off, saying he overslept. He said it had happened before, though not with Dallas, and would probably happen again.

    Owens broke the bone leading to his right ring finger during a game a week ago Sunday. The next day, doctors screwed in a plate so the bone could heal without fear of further damage. Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said last week that the pain medicine made Owens ill.

    Owens had not practiced since the injury, but because Dallas had a bye this past weekend he did not miss a game. He was expected to practice Wednesday, and Parcells had said there was a chance Owens could play Sunday against Tennessee.


    AP - Sep 27, 11:35 am EDT
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    Owens had been especially looking forward to the Cowboys' game after that -- Oct. 8, in Philadelphia, against the team that dumped him midway through last season only months after he helped them nearly win the Super Bowl.

    Owens was seen laughing and joking on the practice field Tuesday morning. He chatted briefly with reporters in the locker room in the afternoon and seemed fine. A 2-inch scar on the top of his hand was puffy but not wrapped, and he said the swelling was going down.

    While in the locker room, he took a pill from a white paper bag and looked at another medicine bottle that was in the bag. He also called a business partner about a towel-wrap venture they're starting and joked to TV cameras that he wasn't talking until Wednesday and today was only Tuesday.

    "My little boy knows better than that," he said, laughing, as he plopped onto a sofa in the middle of the locker room.

    Also Tuesday, Owens was involved in launching a national campaign for the National Alliance to End Abuse, an organization aimed at helping at-risk youngsters. He appeared at a high school Tuesday morning and was scheduled to visit others but had to cancel because of changes in the team's practice schedule.

    Owens has played two games for the Cowboys, catching nine passes for 99 yards and a touchdown.

    Owens, already a top receiver with the San Francisco 49ers, burst to prominence in 2000 for his celebration of two touchdowns on the star logo at midfield of Texas Stadium in a game against the Cowboys. A Dallas player blind-sided him after the second one.

    The legend of T.O. grew when he celebrated another touchdown by pulling a Sharpie from his sock and autographing the ball in a 49ers game at Seattle. He's also borrowed a cheerleader's pompoms, done sit-ups on his driveway before TV cameras and mocked Ravens tough guy Ray Lewis' celebration in a game against Baltimore.

    Before a Monday night game against Dallas last season, Owens took part in a risque promotional stunt with one of ABC's "Desperate Housewives" that later prompted an apology from the network.

    Owens was heavily praised while with the Eagles for playing well in the February 2005 Super Bowl, seven weeks after ankle surgery. However, his relationship with quarterback Donovan McNabb deteriorated soon after and the organization suspended him in midseason and later got rid of him amid contract complaints and other personality squabbles. Team owner Jeffrey Lurie said later that, even with the Super Bowl trip, he regretted having ever signed Owens.

    Multimedia: A copy of the report from the Dallas Police Department is available in the -- sports/nfl06 folder, slugged to-- report.pdf.

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