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Takk Mckinley is on the board at 28

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by CATCH17, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I have said it for a while and I still am very wary of the surgery. The possibility of him being another Shaq Lawson washout just keeps me from endorsing the pick wholeheartedly.
     
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  2. Supercowboy1986

    Supercowboy1986 Well-Known Member

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    Is he the one who spins off of lineman?
     
  3. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Tapper, Willis, McKinley....I'm beginning to think you just hate really elite pass rushers.
     
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  4. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Yep. He had a ridiculous spin move.
     
  5. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    The only question is the injury, will the Cowboys pull the trigger with the injury complication? I think they like his motor and upside as a player.

    All these DE prospects have warts in our range.
     
  6. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Yep...

    At least with Takk he does have some athleticism, long arms, and he will give you all he has.

    He's just going to miss all of training camp and part of the season.


    I would wait another year for a RE and use our pick elsewhere.
     
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  7. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and brew... Staff Member

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    Hopefully they'll be smart enough to take Harris instead.
     
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  8. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    Yes, they do not mind the leaner 240-250 RDE's with arm length and motor.

    I think they will draft a RDE prospect this year but I am unsure if the shoulder for Takk will disqualify him this year as a candidate or not, I think it depends on how they view that injury and the time away from the field.
     
  9. ksg811

    ksg811 Active Member

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    I don't understand all the concern over his injury. It's only a torn labrum, not a debilitating injury like an achilles. Vic Beasley played through his rookie 2015 with a torn labrum and just led the league in sacks this past year.

    This isn't a redshirt situation. The high end of his recovery would bring him to September, so worst case is he misses the first quarter of the season. He'll still attend training camp, work with coaches, learn the scheme, etc. I think it's incredibly short-sighted to disqualify him because he may miss a few games to start his rookie season, which rookie pass rushers usually struggle anyway. Any pass rusher we take at 28 is unlikely to be a big factor early on anyway, so why over analyze a potential missed few games when he arguably has the highest ceiling?

    I fully understand the critiques of his game with his lack of bend, lack of counter moves, poor hand and arm usage etc, but I can't get behind the injury concerns. If the doctors clear him of any chronic or degenerative problems in his shoulder, that's all I need. There is enough depth on this roster to let him rehab and build towards full strength for a playoff push. Story is different though if there some kind of structural, degenerative, or genetic issue but none of us have access to his records, unfortunately.
     
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  10. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    It could be taken into consideration if there are two players with similar grades but only one has injury recovery even if it is possible to come back in September or October.

    Time will tell assuming Takk is available at #28.
     
  11. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he'll be above Carlton or Harris on our list. We can get a similar player in round two.
    If there's an every down DE that falls, we may take him, but if a real stud isn't there, I can see us taking a CB and looking at situational DEs later.
     
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  12. ksg811

    ksg811 Active Member

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    I get what you're saying but wouldn't the injury already be reflected in the grade? And even so, I think it would be pretty misguided to have immediate availability of a rookie as a deciding factor between two players. I can understand a redshirt situation but at most a few games? That's just not logical to me.
     
  13. Rogerthat12

    Rogerthat12 DWAREZ

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    I understand your point but we do not know how they grade these prospects with a possible temporary injury and we do not know how they view the Takk injury in specific.

    They may prefer a player with immediate availability, Jerry mentioned this as a factor in drafting this year, does the Takk injury apply to this perspective, we do not know?

    Time will tell.
     
  14. ksg811

    ksg811 Active Member

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    I don't think they're all too concerned with the injury, otherwise they wouldn't have met with him so many times.

    I took Jerry's comments as being geared toward a Jaylon Smith redshirt situation, which Takk isn't. But like you said, we have no idea how they view injuries or specifically his and how comfortable they'd be with him potentially missing a few games as he gets back into game shape.
     
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  15. Eric_Boyer

    Eric_Boyer Well-Known Member

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    I used to be able to point out how restrictive college rules were at limiting practice time but the CBA has turned the pro game into that as well.
     
  16. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    I like Harris better, but wouldn't be opposed to Takk.

    I like the discipline he shows here:



    And these are nice too:



     
  17. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    Different defensive end same story
     
  18. JIMMYBUFFETT

    JIMMYBUFFETT Skinwalker

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    While I understand the concerns over hand usage and corner bend with McKinley, I can't look past his burst off the snap and his instincts. He just explodes off the snap and finds the ball so quickly. 10 sacks is impressive, but the 18 tackles for loss and 6 pass breakups is what I keep coming back to. He's just constantly making plays behind the line and is relentless against the run and in the passing game.
     
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  19. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 Cowboys Analyst

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    Yeah my list was more brainstorming than actual order of talent..
     
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  20. Pants

    Pants Active Member

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    I may go safety here as I think there are a few studs at that position that I see going in the top 10
     
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