Thanks alot Jerry Jones for axing Norv Turner coming to Dallas, while Jason Garrett wanted him

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by cowboyjoe, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    Why all the Jerry Jones hate? First, Jerry Jones made the right call. Second, it is Jerry's money Garrett is playing with and Jerry has every right to say no unless Garrett is willing to take a pay cut and use the money on Norv. Ain't happening, right?

    And blinded by your hate for Jerry Jones, you miss a bigger point. How would you feel if you were OC Callahan and you heard the rumor Garrett wanted Norv as OC? Do you think Garrett acted like a man and discussed this first with Callahan? Or, more likely, Garrett was sneaking around his OC and willing to throw him under the bus at the first opportunity? Garrett seems more like a snake to me than someone you can trust.

    If I were GM and Garrett came to me and said he wanted Norv as OC, I would say sure, but not as OC, how about as HC. I'd replace this moronic clown Garrett with Norv in a heartbeat.
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  2. garrett316

    garrett316 With the Lights Out, It's Less Dangerous Zone Supporter

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    3 straight years of .500 football and they enter 2014 millions over the cap. This team is going to be worse, likely much worse in 2014 with an aging qb coming off 2 back surgeries and the cap problems.

    Even a knob like Jethro realizes that. Why waste money? He'll take the bullet in '14, clear the coaches out and start new in 2015. Although, I caution anybody that thinks Jerry is capable of finding a competent coach and putting together a tough, quality team, to check themselves. That ain't happening.
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  3. panchucko

    panchucko It's Back Zone Supporter

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    Zimmerman, Gibbs, Hoffman, jeffcoat. We're already here when parcells came on
  4. MikeT22

    MikeT22 Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy and Parcells. The only two who did. Think this has been discussed before, remember? Jerry finally relented and gave considerable control to Parcells after the 5-11 Campo years because he was desperate to get the team turned around and gain support for the new stadium.

    But yeah, Switzer, Gailey, Campo, Wade and Garrett were/are all puppets with virtually no real power of a HC.
  5. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe some of you believe such nonsense.... Jason Garrett never wanted to relinquish his play-calling duties and Norv wouldn't come here when he got rejected as HC for this clown in reality. Jason Garrett was given the OC reigns and Wade was suppose to coach the defense until Jerry believed Jason was ready.
  6. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Jerry told Wade to cut the learning process for Brian Stewart and call the defense. He hired Jason Garrett to do the job as OC and then as HC. Providing him Callahan was to save Jason, because of the fondness he has for him and it's his pet project. If Garrett wants Norv now, it's because he knows he's this close to getting his walking papers.

    Either way, things are looking good for Jason Garrett getting bounced. Hopefully, Jerry is just trying to save money until he effectively cans his biggest disaster as an owner.
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  7. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Sorry theebs I am just not buying your theory. Or do you have inside knowledge that leads you to believe this?

    I just recall people saying we don't have liquidity and then they offer huge contracts to various CB and other FA. Jones is known for largesse and not miserly behavior.
  8. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    IMO, Norv would be the obvious replacement to many, but Jerry doesn't want the pressure of being enticed to hire Norv as the next coach should Garrett fail................again
  9. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    I almost think this is his plan. I also wouldn't be surprised if we barely touch FA except for Selvie type players. We then will finish below .500 and will get a pretty decent draft pick when the new regime
    New regime. Top 10 pick? Sounds pretty good. (Insert old praying icon here).
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  10. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Of course it's a money issue. You have to be blind to think otherwise
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  11. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Yeah after all you were entertained.

    Weren't ya?
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  12. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. But nothing will stop some of these Cowboys fans. Heck, around week 9 or 10 we actually had someone post how Dallas would get to the Super Bowl and then continued to list reasons why. This is insanity. And going into next year, we'll have people predicting that the Cowboys will go 12-4 or 11-5.
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  13. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the Garrett experiment is fixing to come to a close, Jerry aint spending any money on assistant coaches that the new guy is going to fire.............why waste money.

    Looks like a playoff win or clean house at this point.
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  14. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    I agree......people love to scream Jerry
  15. udas

    udas Active Member

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    Foles has no pocket awarness and loses all down field vision. He will be fully exposed next year.
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  16. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    I want Garrett gone but if he's going to be here then he should be able to pick his staff. The object is to win or it should be. It's stupid to keep everything the way it is for another year. It's just another wasted year.
  17. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Great News maybe we can win a top 10 choice in 2015, plus a real GM and a new Head Coach!
  18. alicetooljam

    alicetooljam Well-Known Member

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    Its all just more depressing to me...I hear ya that Norv (as OC) may not be the answer, but Im CERTAIN that Callahan/Garrett isnt either...the depressing part is everyone is resigned to the fact that this a "sink or swim", lame duck, year for Garrett so they can clean house after next year and we're that much closer....isnt that what most thought this time last year? I did... If Jerry doesnt have the confidence to make some assistant coaching changes for fear that he'll be hiring a new head coach (who will want different assistants) next year....JUST DO IT NOW!

    I dont completely buy that its a money issue either...since when does Jerry give a crap about dead money...wheres the legal aftermath against Rat? I know it wouldnt lead to more cap money, but its the principle. Lets see just how money conscientious he is with the Austin/Ware/Ratliff situations. If you CANT improve as much as you would like in free agency, than do what you CAN to hire better OC/DCs...otherwise it just feels like they are rolling over.

    Im sorry to be doom and gloom, but I dont know that I can stomach another season like the last few. The lack of feeling like anyone at Valley Ranch really wants anything different anytime soon doesnt make me feel good going into free agency, the draft, and next season at this point. Im hoping that changes...
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  19. alicetooljam

    alicetooljam Well-Known Member

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  20. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you. No need to chase Norv when almost every year there's plenty of guys who are doing better.

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